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Nissan Altima vs Hyundai Sonata

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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [starryknight] by allenh1
Jul 22, 2007 (11:59 pm)
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Replying to: starryknight (Jul 15, 2007 9:13 am)

I prefer Hyundai Sonata. Here's the reason: I have owned 2000 Nissan Altima GXE 2.4 since 2004(I bought used one). Its advantage is on its powerful engine. Great acceleration. Good window angle. Easy drive. I felt Camry is harder to drive.
 
Huge disadvantage is on its maintenance. Fristly, my Altima had serious rough idle. Most of mechanics couldn't find the reason. I think its computer scan code was P0407 - 4th cylinder misfire. The problem was on intake manifold gasket torn down due to its design issue(it is too close to 4th cylinder). It cost me $650. This is well-known problem. I could find 7 more people who complained on the forum.
 
Secondly, the air conditioner malfunction. There is no problem with condenser and compressor. Cold air used to come out but suddenly it only worded intermittently. Then, only hot air. It's killing me in Florida. Many other Nissan owners said it was temperature control amplifier. I replaced it but still it did not work. I had been to dealership and they said that ECM computer had to be replaced($1100) but I installed the used one($300) and it does not work. I still could not repair the air though I had been to 4 other service shops. The problem will be likely electrical one. Nissan is famous for its complex electricity system - hard to repair when problem occurs.
 
There were also several other problems. CV joint was broken. Power steering oil leaked.
 
There are many others who had bad experience with Nissan cars. One of my friend who bought a Sonata recently said his Nissan SUV(forgot the name) had so many problems and he was tired of repairing it. Electrical problem is famous. Four other people whom I know that owns Nissan cars experienced electrical problems.
 
Having gone through these problems, I decided to buy a new Hyundai Sonata 2007 GLS 2.4. The price is much cheaper than Altima. Sonata had shown very good review about its safety features and review score is pretty high. Its brand name is going up, so resale value after 5-10 years may be improved. Considering money to the value, Sonata has the best deal among mid-size cars.
 
Overall, my bad experience with Nissan may not be so relevant to your decision since Nissan has changed Altima quite a lot since 2003. If you like the power engine and acceleration, then go with Altima, every one that I know loved that. But check your friends about repair cost before making a decision.
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Altima by caaz
Jul 25, 2007 (6:02 am)
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It makes you wonder how negligent the previous owner of the 2000 Altima was. Even finding 7 others in the forum who have had some pelectrical problems is a very small number compared to the 350,000 Altimas that were sold. cv boot & joints are usually due to hard driving as in running into concrete parking barriers etc. But it sounds like you sort of got a lemon. Just as i have heard many Sonata owners with similar complaints.. They're both very good cars and you'll always find some problems with each manufacturer. I'd take the Sonata for size and comfort......but i'd take the Altima for long term reliability, resale, and looks.
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [starryknight] by latasha
Jul 25, 2007 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: starryknight (Jul 15, 2007 9:13 am)

Don't buy an Altima. Look at the numberous posts on Altimas dating back to the 2002 model which I have. These cars have many problems including bad engines causing oil consumption problems.
 
I live near the Smryna, TN plant where I have relatives and friends that work there. In a company poll of why employees were not driving Nissans, the employees commented on the quality and price.
 
I am planning to go back to the Camry. Have you check out the new design?
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [latasha] by macakava
Jul 25, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: latasha (Jul 25, 2007 10:54 am)

Nissan's quality and reliability ratings, with the exception on the Infinity line, have deteriorated badly in the past years - just look at CR and JD Power for reference. Titan, Armada, Sentra are among the terrible ones.
 
Won't be surprised if it is due to their ownership/influence by Renault - which tried to unsuccessfully to sell their cars in USA at least twice before.
 
Sonata is recommended by CR. And Hyundai was rated 3rd behind Porsche, Lexus, and ahead of Toyota by JD Powers in their IQS. It took Toyota 50+ years and Hyundai 25 yrs to get to their level of similar high quality of today. That's impressive!
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Alt vs, Sonata by caaz
Jul 25, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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since this is just the Alt vs Sonata forum...i went with the Altima in my previous statement....however...hands down i would take the Camry...but thats not this forum...and id take a hybrid...as far as CR & JD are concerned......I havnt read 1 single forum yet......where anybody who has had issues or problems with thier Hyundais'.....Although impressive with a 100k 10 yr warranty....( every single comment i've read in edmunds)..and i've read alot...Cant get thier Dealer to fix jack.... So whats the great warranty for if EVERYTHING...falls within Hyundais alotted guidelines and accepted standards.???..Hyundai writes a great warranty...and off sets it by never fixing anything beacause its within thier tollerences.......NOT GOOD!....now i know you think im anti Hyundai.....but i'm not...i just havnt heard anything positive about getting anything under warranty handled.....
 
p.s. on june 30th I purchased a new 2007 Elantra....so NO..im not anti hyundai.... i just hope it never breaks so i dont have to deal with the dealers......and hear its o.k., because it falls within hyundais tollerences....i.e. having a speedometer off by almost 5 MPH at 60....thats not acceptable....but 4.9 is to hyundai?????/
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Re: Alt vs, Sonata [caaz] by macakava
Jul 25, 2007 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: caaz (Jul 25, 2007 1:03 pm)

The best warranty is one that you never use!
 
My wife's 2004 Honda Ody became 3 yrs recently and it never had to go back to the dealer for any repairs of any kind. I have been doing my own PM (engine/tranny oil, brakes, etc) as well as unscheduled repairs on all my cars for the past 35 yrs as a matter of personal interest and aptitude. We have 5 cars in the family today.
 
With that kind of reliability in the Honda, I would want the same for my replacement cars. So with my 13 yr old Continental due for replacement, I researched many cars including the Sonata in detail. Its good reliability record in the past 5 years plus the approvals/blessings from CR and JDP impressed me. What impressed me most was its price -a fully loaded new 2007 Sonata Limited at under $20K, which is at least $8K cheaper than a comparably equipped Accord, Camry, Maxima, etc. These are reliable cars too, but an extra $8K cannot be justified.
 
When I took delivery of the 2007 Sonata, I told the dealer GM that its quality benchmark was my Honda Ody with no reliability problems. He was up to the challenge and referenced the same JDP quality ratings (I knew already) of Porsche, Lexus, Hyundai and Toyota, Honda in that order.
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [latasha] by starryknight
Jul 25, 2007 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: latasha (Jul 25, 2007 10:54 am)

Yes, I considered the Camry, but after reading many complaints in several forums concerning transmission hesitation, I decided not to include the Camry in my choices. One of the things that concerned me about the Altima was the issue with the key fob being deprogrammed by a cell phone. I realize they fixed that issue but my first thought was, what will wipe out the programming next.....maybe your car being near a lightening strike?? Or a static discharge (that happens alot in the winter)?? Kind of makes me nervous but maybe I'm being over cautious.
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [starryknight] by macakava
Jul 26, 2007 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: starryknight (Jul 25, 2007 5:26 pm)

Key FOB is just a fad to be like some others.
 
As many car magazines and other authorities would attest to, the good ole fashioned keys are still the best.
 
One is much more likely to be stranded by a deprogrammed key fob for many reasons you stated than a malfunctioning ole fashioned steel/aluminum key. And what for? - to be/appear fashionable? Another French (parent Renault)connection? How silly!
 
Another likely French connection with Nissan was the placement of the instrument guages in the center of the dashboard of the large minivan Quest. It was a distraction and unsafe for driving. Well after 3 yrs, they finally got it and moved it back where it normally should be - directly infront of the driver!! Probably too late now for damage control in turning off earlier potential customers.
 
The BMW I-drive is another nuisance that some may copy. The I-drive is very complicated and require a PhD to understand it. Whatever happened to the KISS principle?
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Re: Alt vs, Sonata [caaz] by xj220
Jul 27, 2007 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: caaz (Jul 25, 2007 1:03 pm)

I've never had a problem with my Hyundai dealer. In fact, not to long ago I had a headlight assembly replaced on my 2003 Elantra because water had condensed on the inside and they gave me a loaner (no charge) and it was done within a matter of hours. They NEVER asked me if I've been maintaining my car, and I've never taken my car to a Hyundai dealer until then. Don't believe the crap people spew about Hyundai dealers...sure there are some problems with dealerships accepting warranties...but that happens with every manufacturer. People just like to put Hyundai on the limelight because it was their 10-yr warranty that was so revolutionary and people say whatever they can to tarnish it. In fact, J.D. Powers rated Nissan below Hyundai in Customer Service. And it's true... Nissan's quality has definately taken a nosedive as of late, while Hyundai's is skyrocketing. So you made a good choice jumping on the right ship at the right time.
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [macakava] by jd10013
Jul 28, 2007 (4:24 am)
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Replying to: macakava (Jul 25, 2007 11:25 am)

Won't be surprised if it is due to their ownership/influence by Renault - which tried to unsuccessfully to sell their cars in USA at least twice before.
 
Renault has nothing to do with how nissan builds, designs, or sells its cars. renault doesn't own nissan. The just purchased a large stake in the company, and as a result, recieve a very fat check every quater........like every other shareholder. they build their own vehicles in separate factories and compete against each other in most countries, the US being the one of the few that they don't.
 
as someone else said, every manufacture has its lemons, and an online message board is hardly an indicator of vehicle reliability. the best indication of the quality of any car is in its resale value. Car "A" will not resell for more than car "B" for no reason. cars that are built better and last longer resell for more $$.

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