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#88 of 1532 Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA
May 21, 2009 (7:55 pm)
I need some help!. Am I the only one having this type of problem? I consider myself an experience Honda Civic Hybrid owner. I had an older 2003 Model and I loved it!. So I went ahead and purchased a new 2009 model. What a difference!. It drives and acts completely different from the old model I had. I am told, this is due to all the changes Honda did to the new Hybrid IMA system (Version 2 ?).
Here are some of the issues I now have. The car has been at the Honda Service, they can not find anything wrong.
1. The IMA acts more or less random. Sometimes it kick in for a split second then goes away when I accelerate. On the old model it stayed on as long as I applied gas.
2. The Battery Indicator does not appear to be accurate. I have never seen it do a full charge like my old car did
3. It often feels like driving a brick. Many times when I drive around 45 Miles per hour and want to enter a 65 miles high way, I have to accelerate to get to that new speed or I will cause an accident. The IMA seems unable to kick in!. I can see the RPM of the engine go all the way up to 6000 RPM when I try to get up to speed, the RED area is 6200 so the engine is working more than overtime. It takes up to a minute to get it up to speed and the IMA NEVER kicks in!.
4. When I drive in mountain areas or up hills it almost rolls backward!. Well no, but again the IMA does not appear to do anything.
BUT the IMA does work when I drive slow , but never the way it used to on my old model when it actually assisted the engine when it needed power!.
Please help me, this is driving my crazy
#89 of 1532 Re: 2003 HCH IMA Problem [ilikecake]
May 28, 2009 (6:54 pm)
> I located an IMA from a 2005
Most IMA batteries that have been sitting in junkyards will fail within their first year (usually at the 9 month mark) with P1447 or P1433 errors. This is due to the fact that they have been left sitting for 90 or more days without being charged. If this happens to you, you should not replace it again (because it will happen again) but have it rebalanced to correct the damaged caused by the extended sitting.
BTW, $150 is very cheap. They are usually $250.
#90 of 1532 Re: Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA [jorgenchr]
May 28, 2009 (6:56 pm)
You should take another 2009 for a test drive. If it acts differently, go back and yell at the dealer. If it acts the same, then you'll have to get used to it.
#91 of 1532 Re: Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA [jorgenchr]
May 28, 2009 (9:34 pm)
I also have a 09 hch. I never drove an older model so I can't speak of how they compare, but I have had similar experiences, most notably that the IMA seems more or less random and reluctant to assist on steep hills, especially at higher speeds. Initially I thought something was wrong with my car, but increasingly I think its just how the IMA system is programmed. I found the following article to be helpful: http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13570
It describes some of the factors which can affect how the IMA system will respond. This gave some logic to the seeming randomness of the system. I don't know if I changed or the car changed but it seems to be doing better now, after I hit about 4000 miles. I think I mostly got used to the way it drove.
Also, there is a software update for the IMA system so you might want to check with your dealer to see if your car has been updated or not. I only bought my 09 hch less than 2 months ago and it hadn't received the update, so it is quite possible that your car also might have been manufactured before the latest software update.
#92 of 1532 my 2003 have multy problems
May 31, 2009 (2:13 pm)
i just bought my 2003 hch car 1 week ago ,the ima come on all of the time ,& the MPG is too low around 23mpg ...plz help me what i have to do
#93 of 1532 Re: my 2003 have multy problems [amjad1]
May 31, 2009 (3:21 pm)
You first need to find out if it is the battery or some other component of the IMA system. Get your codes read, either by a mechanic or at autozone. Post them here and the state you're in and the mileage on the car.
The warranty is 8 years/80,000 miles on the battery.
#94 of 1532 Re: Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA [timaz]
Jun 03, 2009 (11:15 pm)
Does anyone know what that software update is called? My dealer told me Honda never had any updated available for my car
#95 of 1532 Re: Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA [jorgenchr]
Jun 05, 2009 (5:14 pm)
Software update is called a PCM update (powertrain control module update). I just had it done on my 2006. Fixed a problem I had with acceleration.
#96 of 1532 Re: Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA [hunter44102]
Jun 09, 2009 (6:23 pm)
What i meant to ask about is, what is this specific update that was made available for the 2009 Civic's? My dealer tells me that car does not have any updates available.
#97 of 1532 Re: Problem with Honda Civic 2009 IMA [jorgenchr]
Jun 09, 2009 (7:59 pm)
My receipt from the dealership says "updated PGM-FI WITH LATES SOFTWARE 37805-RMX-A130, ALSO UPDATED IMA BATTERY CONTROL UNIT WITH 1K101-RMX-A110 OP#125517A"
Not sure what everything means, but hopeful that can help.
I had the work done 4/14 and I have an 09 HCH delivered to the dealer in 11/08. I don't know if possibly my 09 was manufacturer earlier than yours. I would guess the cars being manufactured after the updates were released would already come with the latest software, so perhaps your car already had the latest updates when it was delivered.