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Honda Civic, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Sedan
#470 of 1535 Re: Heat Related IMA Problems/Solutions [mainiax]
Aug 12, 2010 (1:55 pm)
mainiax I agree with you. My 2007 HCH was what I expected when I paid an extra $5000. for elect power assist feature. Now that feature has been severely limited I am also experiencing unexpected loss of power which does place me in very vulnerable driving situations. You don't change your driving habits overnight, nor should you haft to. Bottom line is Honda has just converted our cars into under powered standard Civics without our permission. No matter how you look at it, thats just wrong.
#471 of 1535 Re: Heat Related IMA Problems/Solutions [grunn320]
Aug 12, 2010 (6:57 pm)
Guys, trade it in! I did at the same Honda dealer where I bought my 06 HCH and got what I consider a fair price.
#472 of 1535 Re: Heat Related IMA Problems/Solutions [mainiax]
Aug 13, 2010 (3:37 am)
I agree with you. I just disagree with the claims that it is "unsafe".
#473 of 1535 Re: Heat Related IMA Problems/Solutions [grunn320]
Aug 13, 2010 (3:47 am)
I don't know what the climate is year round where you are, but hopefully the cooler fall weather will bring a little relief when the AC can be shut off. Once the car has less demands on it, the battery charge should stay higher and this behavior will go back to normal - hopefully.
The problem is that if they release another patch to keep it more full, availability of assist will go up, but mpg will drop.
EVIL THOUGHT: you can measure mpg, you can't measure assist availability. Therefore if the mpg goes back up, the mpg drop lawsuits go away...
#475 of 1535 IMA battery warranty.
Aug 13, 2010 (4:17 am)
I read that some of you had your IMA battery replaced or talk about replacing them with the warranty. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it is a limited warranty. Honda prorates the battery depending how old it is. And if you owned the car 7 or 8 years deducting 10% of the cost of installing a new one is no bargain.
I read on the Honda website that some states allow10 years for the warranty, like CA ,CT etc.
I decided not to get the update and wait on the side line, I only have 9000 miles left on the overall warranty of the car, so I hope Honda faces the truth and fix the problem the proper way not patching it. I'm also disappointed with all this, I loved the car, I know now I won't buy another.
#476 of 1535 Re: Heat Related IMA Problems/Solutions [Ogre_GEV]
Aug 13, 2010 (4:36 am)
I said I would butt out from this discussion since I don't own one of these but I find your calm reasoned rebuttals of each and every one of the points owners here bring up concerning the lack of performance to be infuriating. To stand back and quote lb./hp. (power to weight) ratios and comparing them to a slew of other vehicles does not tell the whole story. This is NOT the "end all" of vehicle dynamics where performance is concerned. It seems your goal while driving would be maximum fuel economy and while achieving that (due to your adherence to all traffic laws, especially speed limits), you have the time to thoughtfully plan all of your moves a half mile ahead. Most of the driving world doesn't plan anything they just do it if they feel they have a 10% chance of getting away with it. So, your answer to all the owners here, and there are many, is "well, since you bought the car for economy you might as well Sl.....oooow down and thou shall have no safety issues because according to the power to weight chart your car is "in theory" faster that many"??? Oh brother!!!. Now, I'll try to go back to lurking. I just know you will have one of your calm point-by-point dissection sessions of my rather emotional reply.
#477 of 1535 Re: Heat Related IMA Problems/Solutions [pmz]
Aug 13, 2010 (5:00 am)
If I trade my HCH in because I can no longer stand to drive it, it sure as hell won't be at a Honda dealer or for another Honda. Reward them for screwing up your car??? I don't think so!!
#478 of 1535 Still Going Strong with IMA Light On
Aug 13, 2010 (10:49 am)
2004 Civic Hybrid: It's been about a month since both my IMA light and check engine light went on and the dealer quoted me $2700 for a rebuilt battery. Temps have remained in the upper 90s during the day (Kentucky). Battery still charging and uncharging as normal - no problems. Car is running strong as normal and has 155K miles on it. Battery Warranty was gone a long time ago. Anyway I believe in the Civics as a good solid car and have bought 3 of my sons Civics - just not hybrids. My fiance has owned 3 Honda Insights including a 2010. I believe I will probably not be buying another hybrid any time in the future but I have not ruled out a Honda. Although the VW Jetta TDI was a nice test ride. I have noticed over the years that many regular civics and corollas are getting about same mileage as my hybrid so not seeing any big difference on gas saving. YES I do have a lead foot and I'm not about to change that anytime soon. I guess I will wait till she dies and then use one of the 2 online places I found to send the hybrid battery into for repair and let you all know how that goes.
#479 of 1535 Re: IMA battery warranty. [mabecane]
Aug 13, 2010 (11:02 am)
Honda's warranty is 8 years/80,000 miles outside of CA. I'm uncertain about the warranty in NY and all the other CARB states, but in CA it is 10 years/150,000 miles. This is the warranty on the battery. If they replace the battery, the original warranty is still in effect. This means that if you bought the car in 2006, the warranty would run out in 2014 no matter if the battery had been replaced in 2008 or 2012 - or both.
When I said "patch", it was a computer term for releasing a slightly changed version of a program that completely replaces the original one. It was not meant to mean that it was a patch-job or in any way shoddy. It is probably a small change or tweak to the thresholds in the code.
As far as I know, future software updates will be free to you even out of warranty.