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Honda Civic, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Sedan
#1427 of 1484 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [therosc]
Oct 01, 2012 (1:19 pm)
The problem you described is very similar to what I experienced with my 09 HCH. It had an update applied around the time the battery failed and now I'm lucky to get over 38 MPG in town and over 35 on the highway. Had 47/55 for the first 2 years. Check out my previous posts on this thread about the higher than usual RPM and different gear ratio. Does your HCH seem to rev higher than it used to?
Going on 18 months of back and fourth with the dealer & Honda with no resolution. Honda CS is useless and has a very poor escalation procedure (non existant I should say) The "case managers" are a joke and refuse to do anything to help. I submitted a BBB report against them but doubt the issue will get fixed but might as well make the complaint public. I plan on opening a flickr account with screenshots of the problem occurring too.
No more Honda cars for me after this bad experience.
#1428 of 1484 Re: This Problem Began in 2000 [diab]
Oct 01, 2012 (1:56 pm)
Diab and others - please let me know if anyone starts a class aciton suit. I would join in.
I read of my first Prius battery replacement in all places "The Costco Magazine". The car was 11 years old if I remember. The dealer quoted a price of $2700+. The person who wrote the letter said that he contacted his Costco membership and found that if he ordered his replacement battery through them, he would get it for $500 less than the dealer quoter. Hope this bit of info might help someone out of warranty needing a new battery.
I got taken to the cleaners financially and emotionally on the Honda Hybrid that I bought.
#1430 of 1484 Re: Hybrid Battery Replacement Alternatives [sean_ny]
Oct 03, 2012 (11:47 pm)
When did they make the replacement for you? The batteries became Honda's proprietary property not too long ago - more ($) for them, less for everyone else, even less ($) for the owners...What was the charge, please, from hybridrevolt.com and what is their warranty? Is the warranty owner-transferable?
Sorry for the question-filled reply. I'm a bit suspicious after my history with Honda, the dealer, and my vehicle. Thank you for your information.
#1431 of 1484 Re: Hybrid Battery Replacement Alternatives [missdismayed]
by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 04, 2012 (11:29 am)
That was a bit of sneaky advertising disguised as a customer endorsement.
#1432 of 1484 Re: Hybrid Battery Replacement Alternatives [kirstie_h]
Oct 06, 2012 (5:29 pm)
My posting was a bit confusing. I did not own the Prius. Only the lemon 2000 Honda Insight Hybrid. I read a letter in the Costco Magazine where a guy had been quoted $2,740 plus tax for a new battery for his 2001 Toyota Prius. He got the quote from the dealer and was going to think about it. He read in the Costco magazine about a program offering members a 15% discount on parts and services at select dealerships. He went to the Costco website, located a dealer and saved almost $430 on that battery.
Just put this info out there in case it would benefit anyone - did not mean this info as an endorsement.
My Honda Insight went through 6 batteries and the last failure was just a few months out of warranty. The excuses given me were that 1) I drove it too much or 2) I didn't drive it enough, but never that Honda had a problem. And looking back, I believe (couldn't prove it) that I was given reconditioned batteries each time.
I would never buy another Honda hybrid. My transportation now is my 1985
Honda Civic that I bought new. It was the dependable car all the time I owned the 2000 Honda Insight which was just over 10 years.
#1433 of 1484 Re: Hybrid Battery Replacement Alternatives [gremlin1]
Oct 06, 2012 (6:48 pm)
I believe all the battery replacements are reconditioned, not new. They have a lot of failed ones to recondition.
#1434 of 1484 2003 Honda Hybrid Battery pack replacement
Oct 07, 2012 (8:54 am)
I too have a 2003 Honda Hyrbrid and had to replace the battery pack at 50,000 miles at a cost of over $4000 in the summer of 2012. There went all my cost savings from fuel economy. When I first purchased the car I averaged around 42-45 mpg around town and that is now between 38-40 mpg. Since I have spent the money on a new reconditioned battery from the dealership I will drive it for another year and then get rid of it and buy an American car that gets just a good gas mileage as I get from my Honda and no battery pack to worry about in the future. I was told by the dealership that it was because I did not drive it enough is why the battery failed at such low mileage because of the recharging for my short drives.
#1435 of 1484 Re: The update that broke my car [Ogre_GEV]
Oct 07, 2012 (5:07 pm)
I have read on this forum that the software upgrade doesn't exist for my car (2005), but know that I received at least 4 notices from Honda for the upgrade, and just found one of them when cleaning out my desk. Also received a notice three weeks ago for yet another software upgrade for something associated with the car. I can't remember the specifics, but it went in the trash. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I currently have 198k on the car, just replaced a front left wheel bearing, and recovered 3 mpg over a 500 mile trip odometer reset. Battery is still hanging in there, and no IMA problem since your assistance with troubleshooting the bad A/C relay. The battery does degrade a little faster with the hotter weather, but charges up quickly without hurting the mpg.
With that said, when cooler weather gets here and no need for the A/C, I am expecting getting back to the listed 48 mpg as long as I stay off the interstate.