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Honda Civic, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Sedan
#1417 of 1530 Re: The update that broke my car [bossless]
Aug 23, 2012 (6:07 pm)
First, with the CVT transmission, it is a necessity to change transmission fluid at less than 30,000 miles. Slippage starts becoming noticable at around 25,000 miles. Also after a fluid change notice better response within 1 mile or less. CVT fluid from Honda is around $9 a qt, and takes 3.5 qts for a fluid change.
Second, never having got the software mods since originally purchased, my 2005 HCH gets around 38 mpg after the A/C compressor was replaced at 192,000 miles. Before the compressor went bad got 42 mpg with AC running. With the AC turned off can still get 50 mpg with moderate driving below 60 mph.
The story with the A/C is that it is an original Honda part, but not from a Civic Hybrid. My guess is that there is some low-friction design in the HCH specific part to get better mileage from the engine.
#1418 of 1530 Re: The update that broke my car [vidar]
Aug 23, 2012 (7:16 pm)
The software mods don't exist for your car. They only apply to 2006+ vehicles.
50 mpg is good, but put 44 lbs in your tires and you should be able to get 60 or so. I have a 2004 CVT and it's the same car as yours.
#1419 of 1530 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [therosc]
Aug 24, 2012 (9:37 am)
Sounds like your luck was worse than mine. I bought a 2006 Civic Hybrid in April 2006, and in August 2010, I got a notice to go to the deal for a software update. Since then, my mileage dropped from 40 mpg to between 25-28 mpg. I wrote everyone I could, including the president of American Honda; and I even met with the factory representative. Several honest Honda dealers told me it was the IMA technology; Honda doesn't know how to fix the problem of degraded mileage. I have had two recent visits to my Honda dealer because my "small" battery light came on, and on the last one, they said my IMA battery needs replacement (I am at approx. 67,000 miles). Thank goodness, it is still under my extended warranty, but my mileage is still very low, AND I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER HONDA NOR RECOMMEND ANYONE ELSE DOES!!!!!!
#1420 of 1530 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [gnatg]
Aug 24, 2012 (1:38 pm)
Same experience as you had with the same year HCH. I gave up in Feb and traded the junker on a 2011 Prius. I think all of us can speak out against Honda actually as are best weapon.
#1421 of 1530 electric Starter taking over
Sep 19, 2012 (3:52 am)
In the last few weeks my 06 only starts with the starter if I let the car sits more than 24 hours.
I wonder if my IMA will finally die soon. Last January the faulty code showed up, then the dealer erased it and installed the bloody patch. I still have 4 years warranty on the IMA. The sooner the battery gets replaced the sooner I sell the car. That's if anyone wants to buy a 06 HCH.
Honda really screwed that one up.
#1422 of 1530 Re: electric Starter taking over [mabecane]
Sep 19, 2012 (5:19 am)
Same thing happened to me. First, they did the software upgrade and then they replaced the battery. Everything is back to normal now and I am averaging 51 mpg. I recommend you get rid of it about 3-6 months before your warranty expires.
#1423 of 1530 Re: Good news from this owner [vageologists]
Sep 27, 2012 (8:21 am)
How did you get them to replace a battery from 2003? How many miles do you have? When did you but it? I am in Northern Virginia and I have received notice that I need the software upgrade for my 2005 HCH. I have the IMA light (on for a year) and error codes (P2000). My problem is that the car won't pass emissions with error code - but I don't want to get upgrade. Looks like i have no choice - but I'm very happy with the way the car runs now - getting about 43 in everyday driving. Does anyone know what Honda claims this upgrade will do? besides fix error codes?
#1424 of 1530 Re: Good news from this owner [valaxman]
Sep 27, 2012 (11:40 am)
P2000 is a failed catalytic converter and has nothing to do with your IMA light.
Find out what other codes you have that may be lighting the IMA light. Your 2005 IMA battery is warrantied until sometime later this year if you have less than 80,000 miles. California vehicles are 10 year, 150,000 miles. If you have a P1447, P1449 or some other errors, you are eligible for a replacement battery.
The software update for a P1420 or P2000 reprograms the car to be less sensitive to the efficiency of the catalytic converter and it may actually correct the problem (turn off the check-engine light).
Lastly, 2003-2005 Civics are different than 2006-2011 Civics. The 2003-2005 models do not have a problem with software upgrades, just the 2006-2011 cars do.
#1425 of 1530 Re: This Problem Began in 2000 [gremlin1]
Sep 29, 2012 (1:12 am)
I bought 2 honda civic 2006 hybrid
both got the same malfinctions:
1-they could not climb a hill if they stopped while climbing, i.e. they couldnot resume climbing after the stop!
2-when autostop runs the aircondition fails
I asked a freind who owns civic hybrid 2008 and he said that he is suffering the same with his car!!!
it seems that this is general problem in honda civic hybrid 2006-2009
any body knows the solution??