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#1413 of 1534 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [therosc]
Aug 21, 2012 (6:37 pm)
I have read other cases similar to this. Don't know why this tends to happen. To my knowledge the batteries are replaced with refurbished ones, not new ones. Maybe that has something to do with this scenario.
#1414 of 1534 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [therosc]
Aug 22, 2012 (6:10 am)
I traded my 2007 HCH in a little over a year ago. Honda offered me $6,000, and VW gave me $10,000. I drove away as fast as possible before they realized they were crazy. No matter what the dealership tells you, or what they do to your car, you will never have the car you purchased. I loved my car for the first two years. I averaged 45-50 mpg without any regard to my driving habits. After the update and new battery, I couldn't hypermile and get anywhere over 38. I am now getting 40-43 hwy and 35-37 city in my Jetta Sportwagen TDI. I can actually pull out into an intersection without fear of safely getting across. I can use the AC and still merge onto the interstate at over 40 mph. I spent almost two years trying to figure out a way to get back the car I bought. Honda wouldn't budge, and I was no longer willing to compromise my family's safety. I'd rather pay for a car that lives up to the promises of its manufacturer. I am thoroughly satisfied with the fuel economy and performance of my diesel car. I am so very thankful I managed to get rid of my car before it put me and my family in a dangerous situation.
#1415 of 1534 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [heather_07hch]
Aug 22, 2012 (7:14 am)
You did great Heather, that was a good move. I'm also contemplating getting rid of my 06 HCH. My IMA battery gets so low after sitting for a couple of days that the starter now cranks the engine to start the engine, that's the first time I ever heard the starter in this car in over 6 years. The electric motor usually cranks the engine. I now have close to 100k on the odo. I'm hoping for the IMA to kick the bucket so they(Honda) replace the battery, then I will sell the car. I'm looking at the Chevy Cruze, no more electric cars for me. How many miles did you have on your odo when you sold it? Are you happy with the Jetta? No more Honda for me!Bye.
#1416 of 1534 Good news from this owner
Aug 22, 2012 (7:40 am)
I hope this is within the rules of the site. I have a 2003 Honda Hybrid (standard trans.). Loved it until the software upgrade, which cut my mileage. I started having the IMA light come on intermittently. When the light was on, I took it back to the dealership where I bought it, Fairfax Honda. They were rude and unhelpful, telling me I'd have to pay for a new battery without even looking at the car. I then took it to Koons Honda in Manassas, VA. They said they'd replace it for free and promptly made an appointment to do so. Kudos to Koons! I'm now getting 43-45mph around the DC area in pretty heavy traffic.
#1417 of 1534 Re: The update that broke my car [bossless]
Aug 23, 2012 (6:07 pm)
First, with the CVT transmission, it is a necessity to change transmission fluid at less than 30,000 miles. Slippage starts becoming noticable at around 25,000 miles. Also after a fluid change notice better response within 1 mile or less. CVT fluid from Honda is around $9 a qt, and takes 3.5 qts for a fluid change.
Second, never having got the software mods since originally purchased, my 2005 HCH gets around 38 mpg after the A/C compressor was replaced at 192,000 miles. Before the compressor went bad got 42 mpg with AC running. With the AC turned off can still get 50 mpg with moderate driving below 60 mph.
The story with the A/C is that it is an original Honda part, but not from a Civic Hybrid. My guess is that there is some low-friction design in the HCH specific part to get better mileage from the engine.
#1418 of 1534 Re: The update that broke my car [vidar]
Aug 23, 2012 (7:16 pm)
The software mods don't exist for your car. They only apply to 2006+ vehicles.
50 mpg is good, but put 44 lbs in your tires and you should be able to get 60 or so. I have a 2004 CVT and it's the same car as yours.
#1419 of 1534 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [therosc]
Aug 24, 2012 (9:37 am)
Sounds like your luck was worse than mine. I bought a 2006 Civic Hybrid in April 2006, and in August 2010, I got a notice to go to the deal for a software update. Since then, my mileage dropped from 40 mpg to between 25-28 mpg. I wrote everyone I could, including the president of American Honda; and I even met with the factory representative. Several honest Honda dealers told me it was the IMA technology; Honda doesn't know how to fix the problem of degraded mileage. I have had two recent visits to my Honda dealer because my "small" battery light came on, and on the last one, they said my IMA battery needs replacement (I am at approx. 67,000 miles). Thank goodness, it is still under my extended warranty, but my mileage is still very low, AND I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER HONDA NOR RECOMMEND ANYONE ELSE DOES!!!!!!
#1420 of 1534 Re: IMA issues with 2010 Honda Civic Hybrids [gnatg]
Aug 24, 2012 (1:38 pm)
Same experience as you had with the same year HCH. I gave up in Feb and traded the junker on a 2011 Prius. I think all of us can speak out against Honda actually as are best weapon.
#1421 of 1534 electric Starter taking over
Sep 19, 2012 (3:52 am)
In the last few weeks my 06 only starts with the starter if I let the car sits more than 24 hours.
I wonder if my IMA will finally die soon. Last January the faulty code showed up, then the dealer erased it and installed the bloody patch. I still have 4 years warranty on the IMA. The sooner the battery gets replaced the sooner I sell the car. That's if anyone wants to buy a 06 HCH.
Honda really screwed that one up.
#1422 of 1534 Re: electric Starter taking over [mabecane]
Sep 19, 2012 (5:19 am)
Same thing happened to me. First, they did the software upgrade and then they replaced the battery. Everything is back to normal now and I am averaging 51 mpg. I recommend you get rid of it about 3-6 months before your warranty expires.