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#1348 of 1535 just got my ima battery pack replaced
Feb 04, 2012 (6:42 am)
I live next door to a honda dealer mechanic and he told me that he's only seen a few IMA batteries fail after large milage but our 2009 civic's IMA battery failed after 3 years / 32k miles. I knew when we bought the care the the quoted 40 city / 45 highway mileage was only of ideal driving conditions. We like the car so I don't care about the mileage - we were averaging 35 before the battery problems, but I'm worried that these packs will keep on failing and that the warranty won't be honored. The dealer I bought the car from said that the warranty is 10 years / 100k and I read on the site it's 10 years / 150k in the state we live in, while the dealer where we got the pack replaced said the new one is guaranteed for 12 months. I'm calling Honda America on Monday.
#1349 of 1535 Re: just got my ima battery pack replaced [mcdorian]
Feb 04, 2012 (6:55 am)
It would be interesting to know the failure rate on these batteries. My understanding is that replaced batteries under the original warranty are good until the original warranty expires. A battery replaced outside of the original warranty is guaranteed for three years.
#1350 of 1535 Re: just got my ima battery pack replaced [bossless]
Feb 04, 2012 (7:43 am)
Thanks. I'll verify it with Honda. It seems from this thread it seems that dealers are not aware.
#1351 of 1535 Re: just got my ima battery pack replaced [mcdorian]
Feb 06, 2012 (5:41 pm)
the dealers are idiots.
#1352 of 1535 Re: just got my ima battery pack replaced [mcdorian]
Feb 07, 2012 (1:47 am)
dealers are not aware is an understatement. Most dealers choose to ignore most of the complaints and blamed them on poor driving habits or just play dumb. They do not deserve our business.
#1353 of 1535 Re: just got my ima battery pack replaced [bossless]
Feb 07, 2012 (6:36 pm)
Turns out that my model is a low emissions one so the warrenty is 150k mikes or 15 years. Otherwise it would be 80k or 8 years.
#1354 of 1535 small claims hearing
Feb 07, 2012 (9:41 pm)
i had my small claims court hearing in Pleasanton, CA today. My case was actually supposed to have been heard a month ago (actually a few days after Heather Peter's case). But got delayed cuz i hadn't served Honda properly. anyways, i think it went very well.
if you plan on opting out and pursuing your own case, i would suggest that you be well prepared. i think that you folks should NOT pursue this "false advertisement" route. this portion is very difficult to prove. BTW, i hear that Ms Peters' is charging like $15 for her evidence - which I don't think that's cool. anyways, all you really should pursue is the fact that the software screwed up your car. if you had you have a mileage log (cost/gallon, gallons purchased, date, MPG's, etc) that would more or less prove your case. fortunately for me, i had ALL this information as i logged every mile i drove into an excel spreadsheet. It was clear that i was getting worse gas mileage after the software upgrade as compared to before the upgrade. that alone is evidence that Honda did something to your car and should be liable for the degradation in the efficiency. also, if you have a video of the IMA and how it does not give you sufficient recharging of the battery, that should be enough to prove that the car is not performing to when you first test drove and purchased your car. it'll show that the lack of battery assist is insufficient and at the cost of the consumer. you can probably get your gas purchases by sorting your credit card purchases online and noting how more frequently you have had to refill your tank - showing loss of efficiency. keep harping on the software and tell them that this was a mandate to be done - whether you wanted it or not and it screwed up your car.
unfortunately, i screwed up my claim as i didn't modify the dollar amount and what i wanted to sue for as originally, all i wanted was a little bit of gas and a replacement battery. i got a replacement battery when Honda saw that it was 23%, but they wouldn't give me any compensation for gas, so i continued my suit, but didn't realize all this legal crap that i had to file an admendment if i wanted other compensation...S*ck. either way, i think i'll get something, but it won't be much as, like i said, i screwed up. every time we file a suit, Honda has to send an internal lawyer and a company rep which will cost them travel + time spent and this will cost them in other ways as compared to just paying out the small claims. either way, if i win, it's still a win for every one of us Honda owners, no matter the monetary value. it just keeps on subtracting from their reputation.
#1355 of 1535 Re: small claims hearing [viaw]
Feb 08, 2012 (4:02 am)
The software is my main beef. I have it in writing not to install it and they did. Now the car drives like a regular civic but with more fuel consumption. My car actually regenerate going up hills. That is worse than no battery assist. They really messed up. I think Heather is trying to help. She won't get rich on the 15 bucks.
#1356 of 1535 Re: small claims hearing [mabecane]
Feb 08, 2012 (9:48 am)
i agree, won't get rich off $15...but just post the material and have people look. she already has a site posting everything else.
obviously, i commend her for taking this small claims so public. the commissioner who did mine set ours up last as it was going to take a long time and there were no one else other than me and honda and the court folks. the judge was really questioning the on why honda had to implement this software and that people cannot back out of it since the majority of the compaints from people are more about the software and what it did to the cars than anything else.
if you have evidence that you're getting worse performance and mileage, then you are well on your way to a small claims. if you want a copy of what i presented, drop me an email and i can send it to you to help you out.
#1357 of 1535 Bad IMA battery or controller?
Feb 13, 2012 (8:45 am)
2003 Honda Civic hybrid, 49K miles
Abnormal battery behavior for last 3 weeks
IMA light came on on two very cold (~0 degrees F) mornings. Light went out next time I started the car, after driving about 20 minutes. Battery charge about 2/3 while IMA not functioning. IMA functioned normally (as far as I recall) after light went out.
Second change noticed (might have started before first)
Abnormal charging - charging while going up slight to moderate inclines, with battery charge at 2/3 or more. IMA starts assisting with battery a bit less than fully charged. Don't recall seeing battery charge dropping below 50%.
After a 0 degree F night, engine started roughly. IMA battery at 3 bars. After driving 14 minutes, battery charge at about 90%. IMA started assisting on demand before battery had reached 50% charge.
Wondering whether I have a failing battery or a bad IMA controller that isn't charging at the appropriate times?