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187 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 11:23 AM
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My 2006 HCH worked beautifully for the 1st 2 years of ownership. It then developed mileage issues which reduced my average mileage from 45 mpg to 37. Worse, the battery crashes a lot, rendering the car a menace on the road. The dealership installed the four "updates" which did very little. American Honda won't even admit that there is a problem, probably in order to avoid responsibility for costly, but needed repairs. I urge everyone with this problem to report the problem to nhtsa.dot.gov. If you own one, sell it if you can. If you don't, RUN!
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Replying to: nublett (Aug 19, 2009 12:59 pm)
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Replying to: shonda3 (Sep 08, 2009 12:29 pm) The fact that you consider the car a "menace on the road" when assist is not available suggests that you drive with a very heavy foot and that your driving style may be hastening the battery's death. A light touch will give you significantly better mileage. I've managed 63 in a MT 2003 HCH and 86 in a MT 2001 Insight. |
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Replying to: Ogre_GEV (Sep 10, 2009 12:27 pm) |
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Replying to: shonda3 (Sep 11, 2009 4:01 am) What are the actual terms on the warranty of the HCH IMA battery? They advertise 8 years and 100k miles. But does this mean what we would like it to mean? I've looked online and can't find the warranty terms. Does anyone here know what they are? Evan
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Replying to: shonda3 (Sep 11, 2009 4:01 am) Patches = software updates to try to improve the performance of the car or improve the life of the battery. My point is that your battery is deteriorating, but not yet deteriorated. As it stands, the car is resetting itself to the battery and determining that it is still usable. When it gets to a point that it isn't usable, the car will light the IMA indicator and Honda will fix the problem. At this point it ain't broke, so they won't fix it. ALL batteries deteriorate and the car is designed to compensate for this. The problem is that yours is doing it rather quickly. If you are near 80,000 miles, then please let me know and I'll give you tips on how to preserve your warranty rights, but otherwise, just sit back and wait for it to fail. When the recals get to several a day, you are usually very close to a P1433 or P1447 error.
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Replying to: ebauman (Sep 11, 2009 4:32 am) If you get an IMA light and a battery-subsystem related error code, they will cover it. Dealers may be clueless about it but a call to Honda straightens them out. Beyond warranty, Honda will offer "goodwill" (1/2 price) for 5% of the mileage (for example to 84,000 miles). Beyond that you are stuck with a $3000 bill for a new battery or you can have it rebuilt by a third-party rebuilder. In my experience, the average battery lasts 7 years and 120,000 miles. I've seen lows of around 20,000 miles and highs of 297,000 miles. |
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Replying to: cdubya1 (Sep 09, 2009 1:03 pm) I'm experiencing a similar problem with my 06 Hybrid. Did you take your car to Long Beach Honda on Spring Street (Signal Hill)? |
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Replying to: gibraltarla (Sep 17, 2009 6:48 am) I have had 2 test drives with the honda rep (Barry Chandler), I was taking my 06 civic hybrid to the Elk Grove, CA dealer. I also drove an 09 which already had the updated software on it, drove as bad as mine. Mine was great until the updates (there are 3 associated with 1 update number). Now that the OE tires are back on the vehicle, my mileage went back up to 40-42 mpg. But the car has no performance when the outside weather is warm - hot, the battery discharges, no assist from the IMA. Honda is saying that the battery is performing as designed, when asked why they needed to adjust the temperature to shut down the IMA with the software updates, at a lesser degree he agreed that it was because they were burning out. I guess my next step is to research this with the BAR and maybe the media. This is a safety issue that Honda is not addressing. |
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Replying to: Ogre_GEV (Sep 11, 2009 2:49 pm) Our 2003 HCH is just past 80,000 miles (near 84K) and the IMA light is now on. Honda dealer says it is the IMA module, not the battery pack, and wants around 2K for replacement. But he is checking to see if being so close to warrantee will let them cover the repair. That attitude is encouraging, so maybe Honda America is finally getting the message. I will let you know what the dealer decides.
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