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Great Feedback Milkey by bpraxis
Apr 20, 2009 (8:43 pm)
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Thank so much for your great insights and very thoughtful observations.
 
  Those are the two colors that I will decide on over the next week for a left over 2008.
 
  The other question is weather to purchase a sport with the convienence package or a touring model.
 
  The sport would save me about $1200.00
 
  Would the base sport model provide a smoother ride?
 
  Are there any other pros or cons you can think of?
 
  I actually like the looks of the base wheels better and they should be easier to clean.
 
  Thank you very much for your feedback.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [bpraxis] by tishpit1
Apr 21, 2009 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Apr 20, 2009 8:43 pm)

I too prefer the CRM, though I got the light silver because that was what the dealer had left along with black and the dark green, both of which I did not like. I'm pleased with the silver; hides dirt well and looks very classy with the black top and interior. As for touring vs. sport; I got the touring, but drove both. I liked the Sport, but oddly enough, the dealer with the Sport wanted more $ than the one with the Touring, so went for the latter. Personally, I prefer the smaller wheel/tire combo since the huge 17" wheels are very rough riding, especially over road imperfections. The Touring also has the strut mount support, but not really sure that makes a big difference. Drive both, especially over some rough roads and see which you like better.
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Re: To Erics 6 [tishpit1] by ateixeira
Apr 21, 2009 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: tishpit1 (Apr 18, 2009 6:17 am)

You lucky dog! Congrats.
 
I think my deal was more like $6000 off sticker, so you beat me by a couple of grand at least. Lucky duck! Great timing.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Apr 21, 2009 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Apr 20, 2009 8:43 pm)

I also had to choose between the Sport and Touring. I ended up with the Touring plus the Suspension Package - it's a sports car after all, so it seemed to make sense to get the sportiest model. Bigger wheels, lower profile tires, and Bilstein shocks all add to the experience.
 
I think the 16" rims and taller profile tires might be more practical, but c'mon, it's a Miata.
 
Same for the color.
 
Gray is the more practical choice. If you want it, stop reading here.
 
Still reading? OK, the dark red is simply drop-dead gorgeous. I've heard people call it "wine color", and it looks great from all angles. Not flashy, but classy.
 
To be honest that dark red with a tan interior is the best color combo you can get, bar none. Absolutely gorgeous.
 
Mine's blue, and it's a bit dark for my tastes, but for me it was that or dark green, and it wasn't British Racing Green so I went with Stormy Blue Mica.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [ateixeira] by bpraxis
Apr 21, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 21, 2009 6:34 am)

Hello tishbit and ateixeira and thank you so much for the very insightful feedback.
 
  Here is my take on Sport vs. Touring:
 
  1. The 16 inch wheels have more style in my opinion and should be easier to clean with only five spokes. The 17 inch wheels look somewhat generic to me but attractive.
 
  2. My preference would be for a softer ride with the base model.
 
  3. I would guess that the 16 inch tires would provide more tread life. Performance tires are usually only good for around 20,000 miles unless you drive like grandma which is me.
 
  Are there really any other advantages for me to purchase the touring over the sport?
 
  Why do I want to shift six gears instead of five?
 
  I guess that I must be an old fart now, LOL.
 
  Does the stereo sound much different with two extra speakers?
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Apr 21, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Apr 21, 2009 7:54 am)

I washed my Touring this weekend and there sure are lots of spokes. At least the surfaces are flat, but it takes some time to clean them thoroughly.
 
Still, I like them, they look modern. The Sport's 5 spokes are also nice but seem very 1990s. Also the surfaces are concave, so double-check about them being easy to clean.
 
I'm sure the ride would be softer, though.
 
Mine has summer tires and the tread life is only rated 140. I'm not sure about the all-seaons 17"s (is that available if you don't get the Suspension Package?) or the 16"s for that matter but I'm sure both will last longer than my summer-only gumballs.
 
I debated long and hard over the 5 speed vs. 6 speed manual. The 5 speed's overdrive gear is actually taller, so it revs lower on the highway. I'm not sure why the EPA highway numbers are better for the 6 speed, that's a bit counter-intuitive.
 
Any how, the 6 speed has very close ratios. The shifter is wonderful, and the stick is the best in the market, so I don't mind. A very short 1st ratio (even 2nd is short) allow me to creep forward in traffic easily. That plus the soft clutch make it no problem.
 
You do need to shift more, though. And 4th->5th only drops the revs by 500 rpm, same for 5th->6th. Mazda made them all so close, you'll forget what gear you're in unless you look.
 
In that regard the 5 speed may be better, they are spaced out further.
 
On a track you'll probably appreciate the close ratios, but in everyday driving, likely not. Except if you crawl in bumper to bumper traffic and can appreciate the very short 1st gear, like I do.
 
In the end I took the risk, went with the 6 speed, and the crawl ratio actually paid off. Now I'm glad I got it.
 
The 17" tires with the Suspension package are a little bit stiff, but definitely tolerable.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [ateixeira] by bpraxis
Apr 21, 2009 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 21, 2009 10:36 am)

Thank you once again for fantastic feedback and I will decide tommorow.
 
  1. The sport with convienence package would cost me: $15,900.00.
 
  2. The touring would cost me: $17,000.00 with no options.
 
  I cannot believe that I can purchase something so fun for so little cost.
 
  I am thrilled and if you have any other thoughts please let me know.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Apr 22, 2009 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Apr 21, 2009 3:59 pm)

I can hardly believe those prices! That's INSANE!
 
I sat in a Smart For Two convertible at the NY Auto Show and the base model was $16.9 or so, more than that Miata! For a dinky little 70hp 3 cylinder. Crazy!
 
I wrote a letter to Mazda pleading my case - I missed the rebate by 18 days. I doubt they'll give me the extra $2500 (not a chance), but I'm hoping they at least offer some free accessories or some type of discount coupons.
 
I think you can't go wrong. Used ones are actually priced higher than what you are paying. Seriously.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [ateixeira] by bpraxis
Apr 22, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 22, 2009 6:43 am)

I have not picked up the car yet but those are the prices offered via email with the internet manager.
 
  Once again thank you very much for your very well thought out feedback and insight.
 
  One of the advantages of the deflation that we are experiencing is a big leg up for the buyer. And the relentless competition of the marketplace. The Mini has had an impact on Miata sales in my opinion. I cant believe the values in home prices now.
 
  Please wish me luck and no dings or dents.
 
  As you know the 1990 Miata started at approximately $14,000.00 and adjusted for inflation in todays dollar would have an MSRP of $24,000.00.
 
  I will let you know what happens and I am very grateful for your advice.
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Re: Great Feedback Milkey [bpraxis] by ateixeira
Apr 23, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Apr 22, 2009 6:50 pm)

Don't wait too long - the local dealer is already sold out of 2008s.
 
Selection is dwindling.

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