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Toyota Yaris Cruise Control by ldbennett
Jul 06, 2007 (9:36 am)
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I need a cruise control on my Yaris Hatchback. It was not available as a Hatchback option but was as a sedan options (??). The dealer here claims it is not available as a daler installed option either.
 
I found an after market unit by Brandon Distributing (BD) that uses the cars ECM computer's built in cruise control programming (according to BD). But it has it own control head and requires breaking into the car's harness to splice onto the wiring. I do not care for that approach. BD claims dealers all over the US are installing them with good results but I am afraid Toyota might back away from their warrantee if something happens.
 
In reviewing the cars Service Manual it appears that everything is there (with one exception) for cruise control. The throttle is "fly by wire" meaning it is completely controlled by the computer with no mechanical link between the foot throttle controller and the engines actual throttle.....its all done electrically with a motor controlled by the ECM computer. What is missing is the control stalk with the switches for Set and Resume and Off, etc.. It seems to me that all that is necessary to get factory cruise control is to remove the steering wheel and install the factory stalk and plug it into the existing connector that is used for other functions in the steering wheel area as well. Did I miss something?
 
Has anyone done this themselves or had it done through a dealer?
 
LDBennett
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Since we don't have one... by pf_flyer HOST
Jul 06, 2007 (12:00 pm)
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I'm going to rename this discussion to make it our home for talk about Yaris accessories and modifications.
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cruise by 41magmag41
Jul 07, 2007 (4:22 am)
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My sedan came with factory cruise but my recommendation is have the dealer do the install. Even if you have to look around for a dealer that will do it. You might pay a little more but it'll be covered under Toyotas warranty if anything goes wrong. With the electronics on these cars today you don't want a hack job on the electrical system of the car. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Toyota Yaris Cruise Control [ldbennett] by lhanson
Jul 07, 2007 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: ldbennett (Jul 06, 2007 9:36 am)

I think that you have just not found the right Toyota dealer. Wolfchase Toyota in Memphis, TN told me that they would install it for $415.
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Re: Toyota Yaris Cruise Control [lhanson] by mcmanus
Jul 07, 2007 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Jul 07, 2007 5:13 am)

Scion xA and previous xB owners have had to go the the American SE to get cruise installed.
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Cruise control by 41magmag41
Jul 07, 2007 (4:22 pm)
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Was just on the Toyota Website for Canada and under dealer installed options they had cruise control for $469.00 candian. So toyota does make a cruise kit for the yris and your dealer should do some research.
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Re: Cruise control [41magmag41] by ldbennett
Jul 08, 2007 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: 41magmag41 (Jul 07, 2007 4:22 pm)

It may be available in Canada but Toyota of the USA says, sorry, no cruise control by Toyota or by an after market firm for the Toyota Yaris Hatchback, if you wish not to potentially jeopardize your warrantee. While they did not issue a blanket revocation with such a modification, they did say they would consider warrantee claims case by case if the vehicle is so modified, regardless that such an option is available on the sedan. I got this straight from Toyota USA in a direct phone call from them after sending them a letter inquiring about cruise control for the Yaris Hatchback.
 
What cruise control kit is Toyota of Canada installing? Is it a factory parts thing or the Brandon Distribing (BD) after market kit that was developed for Gulf Toyota.
 
I contacted BD and they said their kit uses the embedded programming already in the ECM computer but requires a seperate (not Toyota's) control head (buttons for Set, Resume, etc.) and "splicing" into the existing harness. I intend to contact them again and get more information before I risk my warrantee.
 
I'll try to investigate Toyota of Canada's cruise control option, too.
 
LDBennett
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OK What is the deal Roof racks for the 3 door by tankhead
Jul 09, 2007 (4:43 pm)
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Is anyone using roof racks for the 3 door Yaris hatchback. Thule and Yakima don't have one for it yet...... Has anyone put on a roof rack on the Yaris 3 door yet? Do tell.
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Re: Cruise control by ldbennett
Jul 10, 2007 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: tankhead (Jul 09, 2007 4:43 pm)

OK...I got all the Yaris cruise control information for those of you that care.
 
1). Toyota for the California area has no option for cruise control for the Yaris Hatchback, either originally or dealer installed.
 
2). Toyota for the California area threatened possible revocation of a warrantee repair if sedan parts or after market parts where installed to obtain cruise control, if either caused damage to the car's systems requiring repair. This was to be judged on a case by case basis (its the law, I believe, that they have to prove your modification created the warrantee problem before they can refuse to pay).
 
3). All the parts and the programming are already in the car for cruise control except the control head (Set, On/Off, Resume switches mounted on a stalk under the steering column in the sedan). What may also be missing is the cable that weaves through the steering column for the stalk (??).
 
4). Brandon Distributing (BD) makes an after market crusie control for either the Manual or A/T model Yaris. It is a control head (same functionality as the sedan cruise control stalk). The A/T model requires splicing into one wire that goes into the ECM computer at the point where the cruise control signal from the control head normally would enter the ECM. The control head would also be required to be grounded. The unit uses the Toyota embedded programming for the cruise control function. So you get install instructions, and the control head with attendant wiring with the BD kit. There is no vacuum motor for throttle control since the throttle of a Yaris is controlled via an electric motor run by the ECM computer.
 
5). The BD unit is the dealer installed option developed for the Gulf States Toyota distributor, or so BD claims, but is available to the general public via the internet at their site. Some dealers in the USA may be installing it too (???).
 
6). I was not able to accurately define what Toyota of Canada is installing but they list a dealer installed optional cruise control, as they would not comment on their units maker.
 
I have decided that the risk is minimal in installing the BD unit as it is a passive device and cannot hurt the ECM computer even if continuously grounded which would only occur with a wiring error on my part. I might add BD was very helpful in my pursuit of information on which to make this decision. The huge Yaris Shop Manual I found on the internet also helped immensely.
 
LDBennett
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Re: Cruise control [ldbennett] by ldbennett
Jul 14, 2007 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: ldbennett (Jul 10, 2007 7:34 am)

BAD NEWS!!!!!
 
My Toyota mechanic friend says the California Yaris Hatchback's have a different computer than cars from different parts of the USA and Canada. They tried to add the cruise control to four different Hatchbacks and none had the progaramming in the ECM computer for that feature and would not work. They even tried the sedan ECM computer in the Hatchback with no luck.
 
Before doing anything for a crusie control I think it very wise to find a dealer who has successfully installed one! Californians are screwed, again!
 
LDBennett

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