Buying a Used CJ or Wrangler

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#44 of 63 Re: bikini top [erickpl] by roadburner

Aug 03, 2009 (6:32 pm)

Replying to: erickpl (Aug 03, 2009 9:45 am)
Quadratec will price match if you find it cheaper somewhere else.

#45 of 63 2001 Wrangler wind noise by pauljon1957

Aug 04, 2009 (6:31 pm)

new owner, some wind noise coming from between the top of windshield and hardtop. What's the best fix for this?
 
Has 55, 000 miles: plan to change coolant and tranny fluid soon. Anything else, i.e. plugs, etc.. thx. Paul

#46 of 63 Re: 2001 Wrangler wind noise [pauljon1957] by mac24

Aug 05, 2009 (8:19 am)

Replying to: pauljon1957 (Aug 04, 2009 6:31 pm)
......some wind noise coming from between the top of windshield and hardtop
 
It's likely to be one of three things.
In no particular order, it could be a hardtop that's distorted, the hardtop could have been refitted incorrectly, or the seal on top of the windshield could be bad.
 
Whichever, start by unclipping the hardtop at the windshield and removing the top to body fixings at the tub, then lift it a little and move it back six inches.
You can now examine the header seal on top of the windshield frame. If it's damaged in any way replace it (part #55176 512AE_ SEAL, Header Opening).
This would also be a good time to examine the top to body seals as well, as they too have a bearing on the alignment of the top (SEAL, Enclosure To Body_#55176 372AC Right _#55176 373AC Left).
To correctly refit the top, very loosely install the tub bolts then align the front of the top on the header rail and snap the retaining clips shut. Lastly, tighten the fixing bolts, pulling or pushing the hardtop sides in or out as you do so to align with the body sides.
 
Finally, if the noise remains because the hardtop was a poor molding (or you're too lazy to undertake the previous steps ), you can run a thick bead of silicone sealant between the front lip of the hardtop and the windshield frame.
Use the best quality black sealant in a cartridge, which needs to be applied with a caulking gun. Cut the nozzle for a thick bead and smooth it afterwards as the smoother it is the quieter it will be. You might also want to lay masking tape above and below the joint beforehand to help keep thing clean and tidy.
 
Has 55, 000 miles: plan to change coolant and tranny fluid soon. Anything else, i.e. plugs, etc.
 
Yes, do everything. Whenever you get a 'new to you' vehicle, service everything.
You don't know when things were previously done and it gives you a baseline for future maintenance.
Inspect the brakes and steering, change the brake fluid and power steering fluid, and grease the steering and suspension points.
Check the wheel bearings for wear, and the 'U' joints on the propshafts and front halfshafts.
Change all powertrain fluids (diffs, t/case, transmission, engine) and filters. plus the air filter, spark plugs, and serpentine belt.
Flush the cooling system and check the hoses for cracks and leaks.
 
From that point on just keep to the maintenance schedule in your handbook, starting in 3K miles as if the Jeep was brand new.
 
Have fun!

#47 of 63 Re: 2001 Wrangler wind noise [mac24] by pauljon1957

Aug 05, 2009 (11:06 am)

Replying to: mac24 (Aug 05, 2009 8:19 am)
THANKS for all of the info... Another question ( there may be more ) Some vibration when applying brakes.. feels like warped rotors. Replace pads / rotors? A guess on price for this? THX PAUL

#48 of 63 Re: 2001 Wranger Sahara , parts / numbers ? by pauljon1957

Aug 05, 2009 (11:09 am)

Replying to: pauljon1957 (Aug 05, 2009 11:06 am)
any / all parts mention above , get from the local dealer or another good site to buy OEM replacement parts? THX PAUL

#49 of 63 Re: 2001 Wranger Sahara , parts / numbers ? [pauljon1957] by erickpl

Aug 07, 2009 (6:21 am)

Replying to: pauljon1957 (Aug 05, 2009 11:09 am)
Personally for brakes, I'd go with EBC Yellow or Green pads for your wrangler. Just get some GOOD quality rotors. They do NOT have to be OEM.
 
-Paul

#50 of 63 Used Wrangler Prices by 6horsestew

Aug 25, 2009 (8:20 pm)

I am looking at purchasing a used Wrangler. This will be my first Jeep. I priced out three used vehicles using the Edmunds pricing tool. In each case the Edmunds retail price was $4K below the price listed by the seller. All three vehicles were listed with Edmunds and the sellers were dealers and not individuals. For example, a 1997 Jeep Wrangler with 140K miles was listed at $9K. Edmunds priced it at a little over $5K. In another instance a 2005 Wrangler with 59K miles is listed for $17K and the Edmunds pricing tool returned a retail price at a little over $12K.
 
Is there anyone on this board that can comment? Are the dealer prices high or is Edmunds low? I'm an experienced negotiator but I don't know too much about Jeeps and need some feedback from folks that are used to dealing in this market.

#51 of 63 Re: Used Wrangler Prices [6horsestew] by pauljon1957

Aug 26, 2009 (4:47 am)

Replying to: 6horsestew (Aug 25, 2009 8:20 pm)
I just bought my first Jeep in MN.. A 2001 Wrangler Sahara, Auto trans. Hardtop only, traler hitch. , 55,00 miles I paid 11,600$ Very clean. ..... Also, test drove a 2002, for 11,500$, 80,000 miles, 2 tops... I looked at a lot of Jeeps on Cragslist and carsoup.com.. good luck!!

#52 of 63 Re: Used Wrangler Prices [6horsestew] by mac24

Aug 26, 2009 (4:55 am)

Replying to: 6horsestew (Aug 25, 2009 8:20 pm)
Edmunds retail price was $4K below the price listed by the seller. All three vehicles were listed with Edmunds and the sellers were dealers and not individuals.
 
Dealers usually have a lot more mark up on a used vehicle compared to a new one.

#53 of 63 Re: Used Wrangler Prices [6horsestew] by 6horsestew

Sep 03, 2009 (6:27 pm)

Replying to: 6horsestew (Aug 25, 2009 8:20 pm)
Thanks to those that responded. I have had three contacts with sellers so far. Two private sellers and one used car dealer. The private sellers were easy to talk to and deal with over the phone. The used car dealer was somewhat difficult. He was very critical of the offer that I made using the Edmunds price. He wanted to talk NADA retail price. The vehicle in question looked great on the AutoTrader site. It had four previous owners. The last owner had an accident report that showed up on car fax as moderate damage. The dealers last comment to me was the Edmunds needed to join the real world. After that I thanked him for his time and ended the call. I'll continue my search. It is just going to take a while before I find what I want at a price that I am willing to pay.
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