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Re: NEW! Info. on arbitration hearings. [jmwp]
by wdpcpa
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Nov 26, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: jmwp (Nov 26, 2007 3:11 pm)
Hi JMWP,
Congrats on winning your case. I think that is good news for all of us. I am going to alert my dealer, just so he knows.
Also, thanks for the information on the TSB.
wdpcpa
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- #242 of 285
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Tired of this crap
by sumrx4
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Nov 27, 2007 (5:53 am)
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No offense to anyone here but this is all a load of crap.
If Toyota is using the same co. for it's arbitration than why are we each getting different stories and different results for the same problem with the same vehicle!!!
It is very apparent that the determining factor here has nothing to do with your plea. It seems that the attitude and personal mood of the arbitrater is key in the decision and as with any court case this should not be allowed.
Between the denial verdict I received and constant checking here I get madder and madder (if that's a word) every time I read new posts.
All I can say is that it's a huge load of crap from Toyota not stepping up to the plate when it comes to customer service and I am sick of it 
I guess I just need to stop reading here to help my blood psi. 
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- #243 of 285
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Re: Tired of this crap [sumrx4]
by mlmcgahee
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Nov 27, 2007 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: sumrx4 (Nov 27, 2007 5:53 am)
There is only ONE true fix for this problem......
 (Your State) Lemon Law Buy Back
 It worked for me.......
Mike
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- #244 of 285
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Re: Tired of this crap [mlmcgahee]
by sumrx4
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Nov 27, 2007 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: mlmcgahee (Nov 27, 2007 12:51 pm)
This is true but it still urks me. I have to take my time and money to try to get a problem that I didn't cause fixed. I allready missed a day of work for the arbitration waste of time. I have talked with a lawyer about the issue and there really isn't any fees to me except a few hundred bucks, but what really concerns me is that it may take 6 months or more for a decision. Personally I can't see us driving this piece of crap that long. If I pull the plug on the case myself I am liable for all charges. Not willing to commit to this knowing I might trade at any time.
It's still a load of crap.
Did I tell you how I felt about the issue? 
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- #245 of 285
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Re: Tired of this crap [sumrx4]
by jmwp
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Dec 08, 2007 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: sumrx4 (Nov 27, 2007 5:53 am)
I understand your feelings completely! My decision says "I have reached this conclusion because the customer established their claim by a fair preponderence of the credible evidence that the vehicles driving characteristics amount to a nonconformity, which significantly affects the use , and value of the vehicle. The use issue was substantiated by the performance on the test drive, and value was substantiated by oral and written testimony regarding appraised valuations." (trade in offers) I don't understand why they all aren't taken care of by Toyota. If the cruise doesn't work, and they can't fix it, they should have to buy all of them back. Although it isn't much, they are coming out with a TSB to repair the cruise sometime between Jan. & Mar. 2008. Good luck and thanks for posting the idea to get trade offers. I think that is what helped me more than anything. JMWP
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- #246 of 285
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Re: 2007 Rav4 cruise control problem [mlmcgahee]
by brookeco
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Dec 13, 2007 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: mlmcgahee (Aug 14, 2007 9:50 am)
My name is Brooke, I live in southern Louisiana. I have the same problems just going over a regular over pass. I also have a case number it is 200711020223. The dealership is willing to put me in another car using my rav as a trade in. I just don't know if that is the right thing to do. They are getting the numbers for a 2008 rav and a camry, but I have been reading that they both have the same issues. I really don't know what to do. I think I would rather get something else besides a toyota.
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- #247 of 285
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Re: 2007 Rav4 cruise control problem [brookeco]
by sumrx4
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Dec 13, 2007 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: brookeco (Dec 13, 2007 7:23 am)
From all I have read this does not effect the 6 cylinder Rav4 models. Personaly I would go to another manu. But that is strictly based on my experience with this issue. You have to also think about your trade in value. One would only assume the dealer in question would give you a better offer than any other especially a different manu. The best advise I could give is to shop around and see what's out there and what kind of deal you can get.
The Rav4 is a nice vehicle except for this issue. My wife loves her's
And by the way, I drove her's yesterday for the first time in a few months and just as others have posted here the problem seemed to be almost nonexistant. I tried my best and could not make it happen. It currently has just over 20K miles.
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- #248 of 285
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Re: 2007 Rav4 cruise control problem [brookeco]
by rcman
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Dec 13, 2007 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: brookeco (Dec 13, 2007 7:23 am)
I have an 08 RAV4 Limited V6. I just turned over 2000 miles and so far I like this vehicle. The V6 has a 5 speed transmission and it will down shift one gear on a grade, but that is all. It does not shift in and out of gear like the 4 cyl does. The V6 has a lot of power, in fact maybe to much. When you want to pass another car, it gets the job done.
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- #249 of 285
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Cruise control red-lining
by cc2cara
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Jan 01, 2008 (5:41 pm)
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I have had a problem just a couple times with my 2007 RAV4 -4 cylinder. Just this past week it happened again. Always when I'm going up hill and re-engage the cruise. I had it set at about 70. I kicked the cruise off and then re-engaged it going uphill and it downshifted (all the way?) till the tach hit the red line. By then it was going 75, and I kicked the cruise off. It only took a few seconds to ramp up to that speed. The previous times it red-lined going uphill, too. The first time was just going up an overpass. I had stopped at a light and then manually accelarated slowly to about 10 mph from the set point. I have driving with cruise controls for more than 20 years and have never had one behave like this before. I'm thinking of taking it to the dealer.
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- #250 of 285
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Re: Cruise control red-lining [cc2cara]
by thr
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Jan 06, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: cc2cara (Jan 01, 2008 5:41 pm)
Welcome cc2cara to the 4cyl 2wd RAV4 group with cruise control/erratic gear shifting problems. My first experience with my RAV4 was similiar to yours. Going uphill at 65mph, a sudden down shift to 2nd or 1st gear, RPM jumping to 5000+, then just as suddenly an up shift to 4th gear, followed by repetitions of the cycle. I purchased my RAV4 in May 2007. What I discovered was a group of 12-15 owners experiencing the same problem. I went through the dealer visit, letter to the customer relations assoc., letter to Consumer Reports, and finally the "recommended" arbitration. Throughout, Toyota representatives claimed that the "buck n jump" was normal, not abnormal, performance as designed, and no they could not or would not fix the problem. To make a long tale short, I took the case to arbitration..and lost. The arbitrator seemed honest and experienced. I thought finally someone would recognize the need for a warranty fix.
So go see the dealer, describe/demonstrate the problem, ask for a fix, even plead for a warranty fix. I wish you luck maybe thay will offer you a good deal on a V6. If they do... take it.
If they stonewall and recommend arbitration to settle your case. Don't hesitate, locate and consult with a lawyer specializing in state lemon law cases. I've talked to one who indicated he only takes cases he can win at no cost to the client.
I'm considering the lemon law course of action....However losing in arbitration will make winning more difficult. Good luck !
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