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#238 of 285 Re: Rav 4, ces1938 [ces1938] by mlmcgahee Nov 20, 2007 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: ces1938 (Nov 19, 2007 4:48 pm) I feel your pain brother Charles.... Like you, my problem will be resolved this evening at 5:30pm when I turn my 2007 RAV4 back in at the dealership for the Lemon Law buy back. After that I am done with Toyota. I am very happy with my new 2008 Nissan Rogue that I purchased last week......   http://www.nissanusa.com/rogue   http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f151681/   Mike
#239 of 285 NEW! Info. on arbitration hearings. by jmwp Nov 26, 2007 (3:11 pm)
I found this just in time for my arbitration hearing. Using ideas from this forum,I dashed around and got everything I needed to present my case on Nov. 15. I had my repair invoices from 2 different Toyota dealers, 2 trade offers, (one from Toyota, and one from a GM dealer), and a list of case numbers from this forum that Toyota was repurchasing. Had my hearing, and Toyta rep. stated that Toyota would have a TSB for the cruise during the first quarter of 2008. Went for a drive, and the dumb thing worked perfect, NO gear hunting! Went around and over the same road again, and only did it 2 times. Usually in this spot it will gear hunt 4 or 5 times!!! Thought that would do me in, but not so! Just got my mail and Toyota has to repurchase my Rav 4. So, thanks to all of you and all of your good ideas. My case number is 2107156. JMWP Replies to this message: wdpcpa (Nov 26, 2007 4:10 pm)
#240 of 285 Re: Wow, lots to cover... [wwest] by wdpcpa Nov 26, 2007 (4:08 pm)
Replying to: wwest (Nov 19, 2007 3:49 pm) wwest said:   "First, no car manufacturer can readily, easily, modify/retrofit any vehicle that has already passed the EPA, CARB, testing/qualification procedures in any way that might affect fuel emissions, adversely or otherwise. "   Response:   I am not buying it. Part is broken. They can fix it. I am not so sure you couldn't take it off completely if you want to do so. Not all cars have cruise control.   wwest said: "The basic idea is to keep the engine operating at the LOWEST possible RPM, LOWEST frictional losses, at which the engine can JUST BARELY maintain your desired speed. "Set" speed in the case of CC. On vacation this past February I drove a new Mazda Minivan the first week and a new Chrysler Sebring the second week, both with V6 engines. I was astounded, literally, at the number of shifts these vehicles would go through, especially in CC, traveling over only slightly rolling terrain. "   Response:   I drove the Sebring and that isn't this. This thing is bucking like a bronco and jumping upwards to 5K RPMs and then back to 2K up to 3K. It's broken.   wwest said:   "The thing to remember, keep in mind, is that you have forward vision of the upcoming roadbed while the CC does not. So the CC system must wait until the speed falls off before realizing that the going has gotten harder. That often results in a much harsher downshift than if you were driving, and automatically, UNCONSCIOUSLY, depressed the gas slightly as you reached the inclined section of the roadbed."   Response:   If that theory were true it would be consistent both within one particular vehicle and then across the product line. That is, all the RAV4, 4 cylanders would react the same on the same road. They don't. And mine used to buck and then stopped.   This gear hunting isn't engineering. It's broken. And that's why the trade in value has dropped on this particular model.   wdpcpa Replies to this message: kari3 (Jan 07, 2008 6:02 am) cc2cara (Jan 11, 2008 6:54 am)
#241 of 285 Re: NEW! Info. on arbitration hearings. [jmwp] by wdpcpa Nov 26, 2007 (4:10 pm)
Replying to: jmwp (Nov 26, 2007 3:11 pm) Hi JMWP,   Congrats on winning your case. I think that is good news for all of us. I am going to alert my dealer, just so he knows.   Also, thanks for the information on the TSB.   wdpcpa
#242 of 285 Tired of this crap by sumrx4 Nov 27, 2007 (5:53 am)
No offense to anyone here but this is all a load of crap.   If Toyota is using the same co. for it's arbitration than why are we each getting different stories and different results for the same problem with the same vehicle!!!   It is very apparent that the determining factor here has nothing to do with your plea. It seems that the attitude and personal mood of the arbitrater is key in the decision and as with any court case this should not be allowed.   Between the denial verdict I received and constant checking here I get madder and madder (if that's a word) every time I read new posts.   All I can say is that it's a huge load of crap from Toyota not stepping up to the plate when it comes to customer service and I am sick of it   I guess I just need to stop reading here to help my blood psi. Replies to this message: mlmcgahee (Nov 27, 2007 12:51 pm) sumrx4 (Nov 27, 2007 1:17 pm) jmwp (Dec 08, 2007 4:26 am)
#243 of 285 Re: Tired of this crap [sumrx4] by mlmcgahee Nov 27, 2007 (12:51 pm)
Replying to: sumrx4 (Nov 27, 2007 5:53 am) There is only ONE true fix for this problem......   (Your State) Lemon Law Buy Back     It worked for me.......   Mike Replies to this message: sumrx4 (Nov 27, 2007 1:17 pm)
#244 of 285 Re: Tired of this crap [mlmcgahee] by sumrx4 Nov 27, 2007 (1:17 pm)
Replying to: mlmcgahee (Nov 27, 2007 12:51 pm) This is true but it still urks me. I have to take my time and money to try to get a problem that I didn't cause fixed. I allready missed a day of work for the arbitration waste of time. I have talked with a lawyer about the issue and there really isn't any fees to me except a few hundred bucks, but what really concerns me is that it may take 6 months or more for a decision. Personally I can't see us driving this piece of crap that long. If I pull the plug on the case myself I am liable for all charges. Not willing to commit to this knowing I might trade at any time.   It's still a load of crap.   Did I tell you how I felt about the issue?
#245 of 285 Re: Tired of this crap [sumrx4] by jmwp Dec 08, 2007 (4:26 am)
Replying to: sumrx4 (Nov 27, 2007 5:53 am) I understand your feelings completely! My decision says "I have reached this conclusion because the customer established their claim by a fair preponderence of the credible evidence that the vehicles driving characteristics amount to a nonconformity, which significantly affects the use , and value of the vehicle. The use issue was substantiated by the performance on the test drive, and value was substantiated by oral and written testimony regarding appraised valuations." (trade in offers) I don't understand why they all aren't taken care of by Toyota. If the cruise doesn't work, and they can't fix it, they should have to buy all of them back. Although it isn't much, they are coming out with a TSB to repair the cruise sometime between Jan. & Mar. 2008. Good luck and thanks for posting the idea to get trade offers. I think that is what helped me more than anything. JMWP
#246 of 285 Re: 2007 Rav4 cruise control problem [mlmcgahee] by brookeco Dec 13, 2007 (7:23 am)
Replying to: mlmcgahee (Aug 14, 2007 9:50 am) My name is Brooke, I live in southern Louisiana. I have the same problems just going over a regular over pass. I also have a case number it is 200711020223. The dealership is willing to put me in another car using my rav as a trade in. I just don't know if that is the right thing to do. They are getting the numbers for a 2008 rav and a camry, but I have been reading that they both have the same issues. I really don't know what to do. I think I would rather get something else besides a toyota. Replies to this message: sumrx4 (Dec 13, 2007 9:49 am) rcman (Dec 13, 2007 8:21 pm)
#247 of 285 Re: 2007 Rav4 cruise control problem [brookeco] by sumrx4 Dec 13, 2007 (9:49 am)
Replying to: brookeco (Dec 13, 2007 7:23 am) From all I have read this does not effect the 6 cylinder Rav4 models. Personaly I would go to another manu. But that is strictly based on my experience with this issue. You have to also think about your trade in value. One would only assume the dealer in question would give you a better offer than any other especially a different manu. The best advise I could give is to shop around and see what's out there and what kind of deal you can get. The Rav4 is a nice vehicle except for this issue. My wife loves her's And by the way, I drove her's yesterday for the first time in a few months and just as others have posted here the problem seemed to be almost nonexistant. I tried my best and could not make it happen. It currently has just over 20K miles.

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