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#210 of 292 Cruise control arbitration by olgmit
Nov 07, 2007 (7:20 pm)
We completed our arbitration hearing last week. We now await the decision. Thanks to all of you for sharing your thoughts on this subject. We think we presented our case well, partly because of your recommendations. We had a thorough written brief, verbal comments, and a perfect demonstration of the buck n jump. The Toyota representative had to admit that what we presented was true. Yet, he indicated all RAV4 2wd. 4cyl. have this characteristic. We were hopeful as we left the hearing.
Those of you that have not yet gone through arbitration should check out the 2005 US FTC audit of the NCDS/Automobile Warranty Arbitration Program [awap]. The audit report is found at WWW.ftc.gov/os/rule703/2005auditncdsawap.pdf
It is 87 pages of history,procedures,methods, training,and statistical data. The report basically said that the NCDS was doing its job within federal rules. However, the statistic that shows just how difficult it is to win was the overall awap reported numbers. In 2005 3,317 dispute cases were filed. Some were ineligible for review, some were closed by mediation [with the dealer], and 1,888 were actually arbitrated. Only 364 [19.3%] were in favor of the consumer. 1,524 [80.7%] were adverse to the consumer. HAL
#211 of 292 cruise control arbitration
Nov 12, 2007 (7:18 pm)
Received the results of our arbitration exercise: DENIED!
It seemed to be a fair and straight forward hearing. We felt our case was a winner.
However, considering that only 19.7% of consumers win at arbitration, we are not surprised. I would never recommend arbitration to anyone.
If a case exists skip arbitration and go straight to the lemon law. Arbitration just slows efforts to get a resolution, and kind of muddies the waters. HAL
#212 of 292 Re: cruise control arbitration [thr]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Nov 12, 2007 (7:25 pm)
Was it binding, and if not, are you going forward with lemon law or ?
#213 of 292 RAV 4 Cruise Control problem
Nov 12, 2007 (9:06 pm)
I have a 6 cyl 2008 RAV 4. I don't have a problem with it changing in and out of gear but do have a problem with it down shifting on a hill. But it only does it if I'm going down a hill and start up another hill. It seems to lag to long in coast mode and does not make a smooth power transition. I can tell a difference when I have a full tank of gas. If I approach a normal size hill straight on, I don't down shift.
#214 of 292 Lemon Law Buy-back
Nov 13, 2007 (3:31 am)
Toyota has agreed to buy-back my 2007 RAV4 under the Georgia Lemon Law process. I am to meet at the dealership sometime next week for the buy-back to take place. I have just purchased a 2008 Nissan Rogue SL to replace the RAV4. It is a great small crossover SUV and fits my needs nicely. This makes my 4th Nissan purchase and I have great service and reliability from them. Buy the end of next week I should be done with Toyota. Good luck to all on this forum who are dealing with defective RAV4's.
#215 of 292 For what it's worth
Nov 13, 2007 (8:05 pm)
I looked at RAV4, along with a few other cars. Just for the fun of it, I printed out the worst of it and left it with the salesperson, explaining why I would not be buying a Toyota. I wasn't going to anyhow, but just figured I'd do my part. I wish you all the best with this problem.
#216 of 292 Re: RAV 4 Cruise Control problem [rcman]
Nov 15, 2007 (4:17 pm)
Ref #213 Is anyone else having this problem with the 6 cyl 2008 RV 4.
#217 of 292 My RAV4 cruise makes it a real lemon
Nov 15, 2007 (5:12 pm)
I have the same problems with my 2007 RAV4 4 cyl. It now has 6800 miles. Toyota tells the they are working on this problem. When I bought the car it had been on the market for about 1 year. How long does it take for them to figure out how to fix this problem. My problem is the same as most other people . I have auto transmission. The vehicle will shift rapidly many times between 2nd and 3rd gears. This happens on the slightest incline. I recently took a trip, drove through the AL mountains and it was a real "nightmare"I thought the transmission would come apart with all the jerking. I am 74 years old and I want cruise control;. I was told by service technician at dealer that if it bothered me, "just cut the cruise control off" I will never do business with Toyota again. I have a consumer lawyer and I am suing under SC lemon law Please wish me good luck.
#218 of 292 Toyota Rav 4, ces1938
Nov 15, 2007 (5:43 pm)
come on jacksafe, what in the heck is wrong with you that you would buy a 2008 Rav 4?? I guess you did not read this blog on that piece of crap.... geezz, we have been bitching about this Toyota disaster for two years and still you bought one, ha,,ha.... sorry but I find that a bit funny....will ole pal, suck it up and live with it till you can dump it on the unsuspecting that is all you can do now, Toyota will never fix this problem, they told me they did not need to, they have a fine reputation and can sell cars on their reputation, well it seems they are right huh....well it will catch up with them just as it did with the big 3 auto companies in good ole America... good luck dude suck it up and make the best of it, cause this is all you are going to get.... ces1938, been there done it....
#219 of 292 Re: Toyota Rav 4, ces1938 [ces1938]
Nov 15, 2007 (8:02 pm)
I think you meant rcman. That's why I purchased the V6. As I said, it will down shift on a hill but does not jump in and out between gears. Other than that, I like the car. From what I've read here, the cruise control with the 4 cyl is the main problem. I drove the 4 cyl before I drove the 6 cyl and decided to get the 6 cyl. Good choice huh. I got 27.5 mpg with mixed driving. 75% highway and 25% town.