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Future Vehicles 2008 the year of the factory performance sedans
35 messages, Last post on Jul 29, 2007 at 1:10 PM
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| I feel the engine should be a variation on the LS7 with alittle more torque, after all this car isn't as light as the corvette. The most important thing they have to do right is make every bulletproof. I live in Atlanta,Ga with two dragstrips, two roadcourses and the mountains within two hrs of me I need my car to holdup. The first gen Cts-V's wheel hop, electronic gremlins(see youtube cts-v video guy has cts-v breakdown while cruising) and diff problems(the whine) ultimately kept me from purchasing a 1st gen. I even could have lived with the cheap interior, but not that many problems. I will wait till 2009 before I buy anything from my list of vehicle considerations. | |
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Replying to: tcrawley1 (Jul 12, 2007 10:06 am) for that much money, the r32 does give great performance, and it handles amazingly well, and theres no god awful turbo lag. for that much money, i WANT a nice interior, not some low rent budget car scenery. the new lancer BARELY makes it do-able. different strokes for different folks. (but i do agree that you seem like a guy who buys on solely performance, as the evo wont be winning any beauty contests soon!  ) im actually not buyist towards euro cars either... a nice civic type r would do me good!
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 24, 2007 8:22 am)
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Replying to: tcrawley1 (Jul 24, 2007 8:44 am) the acura tsx does have a nice interior...but even with comptec parts...you still wont be at the r32's performance levels...and you are still missing awd. not to mention the lack of exclusivitiy and extra money FOR those aftermarket mods. the interior is about on par...but not 'better' in the least. and lets not even get started about the seats. with regards to adding the comptec parts...i wont really have any money left over will i? seeing as how the tsx is well into the 30k range...and unless you were to go forced induction, there is no way you will get that much performance for so little money. |
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Replying to: tcrawley1 (Jul 24, 2007 8:44 am) and yet if you look at the related cars at the top of this thread, you see the bmw m3 and the audi s4, yet most of this discussion has been based around many other vehicles and has hardly touched base (if at all) on those models. I'd say its pretty open game. If you get technical, i can talk about the gli or si sedan...because they both fit with this threads description. again only if you want to get techincal. 
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 26, 2007 11:12 am) Just an a FYI. The New (ugly) Impreza WRX does come in a sedan still in the US and only in the US. It's still a factory performance sedan but the STI would probably be closer to the intent of this thread but that only comes in a hatchback. Personally I prefer hatchbacks as they give you more utility than a mere trunk. I know it's very American to want a sedan, but I have no idea why that is. 
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Replying to: stevecebu (Jul 26, 2007 11:22 am) 
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Replying to: tcrawley1 (Jul 29, 2007 12:20 pm) Yes somehow the security of having a trunk with all that sheet metal protecting it from prying eyes. The only drawback is that space in a trunk is very limited and a lot of us want utility. Of course I've owned a lot of wagons and while they aren't usually very sporty, they are easier to justify buying one. I still think most econoboxes aren't all that safe. I saw a pic of a truck that had backed right up onto the nose of a Honda Fit. I really was going towards buying a Honda accord but when they verified that there would be no diesel option for another year and the V6 was dropped in the sedan  I figured oh damn, now I have to look at other models yet again. My wife is thinking an EVO would be a good buy as it's AWD and goes good in the snow, but the insurance on it with her being a new driver will probably run me at least $4K a year!  Subaru dropped the ball with the WRX so you pay an extra $7K for a turbo and not much else and the engine is the same as the 2.5i from what I've read so no advantage in the WRX anymore. The NEW Suzuki Swift which has been out for like 2 years in the rest of the world is a fun little cr but totally controlled by GM so no chance of the Mini Cooper looking Suzuki coming to the US anytime soon. That's a car that's fun and could give the Fit a run for it's money and costs less! Anyway, I need 4 doors and room for 4 adults and that eliminates cars like the Accord Coupe. Now a Honda Accord Wagon with a diesel, that I could see myself buying but BMW will take the lead over Honda as they make great diesels and are not afraid to sell wagons. |
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Replying to: tcrawley1 (Jul 29, 2007 12:20 pm) It's been a long time since I've seen any hatchback - even in 80's era cars, except in the absolute cheapskate versions that didn't have a cargo cover that made the cargo as hidden from view and secure as any sedan. The argument that hatchbacks aren't safe is not a logical one either... Compare apples to apples. Is the WRX sedan any safer than the hatch/wagon? These are all perceptions self-induced by the industry, because in the quest for high profit-margin only body styles that sell the most are offered at all. Therefore, the U.S. generally never sees high-end versions of hatchback and wagon body styles the rest of the world gets. We usually only get the rental grade econo-boxes or SUVs, etc. with a few bold exceptions, which the U.S. market finds odd and quirky, so they don't sell well except to the folks who prefer something a little different, or a high-end car that has a hatch. And thanks to Mazda for still having the 6 Hatch available with GT trim in 4 or 6 cylinders, too. Not a WRX, but a really great package.
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