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#757 of 786 Re: . [anythngbutgm] by ateixeira

Jun 04, 2009 (11:15 am)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jun 04, 2009 9:56 am)
I wonder, though, if the Venza is really bringing in any new buyers, or is it just cannibalizing the Highander, RAV4, and maybe even the Lexus RX.

#758 of 786 Re: . [ateixeira] by nippononly

Jun 04, 2009 (11:22 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 04, 2009 11:15 am)
Exactly. And IS the Venza, in fact, a hot-selling model? Or the IS? Now they will start to sell a $40-50K IS250/350 convertible. Not sure how many buyers that will find.
 
But it seems that Highlander sales are down with the advent of the Venza, something I thought likely before the Venza was introduced.

#759 of 786 Re: . [nippononly] by ateixeira

Jun 04, 2009 (11:23 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 04, 2009 11:22 am)
It would be interesting to know what Venza owners traded in, and what they cross-shopped as well.

#760 of 786 Re: . [nippononly] by larsb

Jun 04, 2009 (11:29 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 04, 2009 11:22 am)
Venza on pace to sell 8,800 this year.
 
Not a hot seller.

#761 of 786 Re: . [larsb] by ateixeira

Jun 04, 2009 (11:33 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 04, 2009 11:29 am)
Yeah, not so hot after all.
 
I believe the hot crossovers sold around 120-150k per year or so. Maybe 70% of that pace in today's market.
 
In that regard the Venza is all but invisible.

#762 of 786 Re: . [larsb] by anythngbutgm

Jun 04, 2009 (11:35 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 04, 2009 11:29 am)
8800? That's it? Wow, from the numbers I see here in MA, you'd think it was doing better than that. For every new HL, i see a new Venza. Must be different elsewhere...

#763 of 786 I don't really get the Venza... by andre1969

Jun 04, 2009 (11:47 am)

I sort of look at it as a jacked-up Camry station wagon. But, isn't that essentially what the Highlander is? And the RAV-4 really isn't a tiny little cute-ute anymore, so it just seems to me all these models are beginning to gravitate to a mean.

#764 of 786 Re: I don't really get the Venza... [andre1969] by ateixeira

Jun 04, 2009 (11:54 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 04, 2009 11:47 am)
In person they're not nearly as tall or as high up as a RAV4 or Highlander.
 
It's basically a big Camry wagon, with a luxurious twist. The interior is much nicer than the RAV4, IMO.
 
That's why I think it could steal a few RX sales.

#765 of 786 Re: . [anythngbutgm] by larsb

Jun 04, 2009 (11:54 am)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jun 04, 2009 11:35 am)
Woops !!!
 
That was numbers from TOYOTA CANADA on the 8,800 a year.
 
USA:
 
4,745 in May, with the 2009 total at 15,942 so far
 
My bad..........

#766 of 786 Re: . [larsb] by ateixeira

Jun 04, 2009 (11:56 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 04, 2009 11:54 am)

 
And we all fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
 
Still, 32k per year, at this rate, is still very much an also ran.
 
Heck, the old Forester sold at about 48k/year and it was considered an also ran. The new one is doing a lot better, as is the RAV4. And the funny thing is those aren't even the crossover leaders - the CR-V is.

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