Article Comments - 2007 BMW 335i vs. 2008 Infiniti G37

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Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 BMW 335i vs. 2008 Infiniti G37 - After driving the 2007 BMW 335i and 2008 Infiniti G37 Sport, we wonder if the people who built them thought about anything besides going fast. (more)

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#78 of 87 Turbos... by shipo Sep 01, 2007 (4:53 pm)
Come on gang, turbosuperchargers made their debut on gasoline engines over ninty years ago back in the early to mid 1920s. At this point it ain't exactly rocket science to build a highly reliable turbocharged engine that will go hundreds of thousands of miles with what amounts to "normal" maintenance. Best Regards, Shipo
#79 of 87 Re: Dose of reality... [trewquis] by shipo Sep 01, 2007 (4:59 pm)
Replying to: trewquis (Aug 31, 2007 4:13 am) 6)BMW's "free" service. I don't think this is worth a whole lot. BMW suggests a ludicrous 15,000 miles between oil changes. Why ludicrous? BMW and Porsche have been recommending 15,000 mile (or greater) oil changes since the mid to late 1990s. How many of their engines have you heard about that have failed due to the oil change frequency? Personally I have yet to hear of even a single one. Like it or not, what with their larger oil capacities, clean burning properties and very specific synthetic oil requirements, history has proven that the 15,000 mile (or greater) OCI is valid. Best Regards, Shipo Replies to this message: trewquis (Sep 02, 2007 7:55 am) shipo (Sep 02, 2007 9:21 am)
#80 of 87 Re: Dose of reality... [shipo] by trewquis Sep 02, 2007 (7:55 am)
Replying to: shipo (Sep 01, 2007 4:59 pm) I guess I haven't kept up to date with OCI. In any event, the point was - 50K service translates to 3 oil changes, a radiator flush, wiper blades and maybe brake pads if needed. My current car has 201,000 miles on it and I've changed the brake pads I think 3 times and the rotors once. I expected the service was worth $200, someone else threw in wiper blades - that's another $15, the brake pads would bring the total to $400 - $500 as someone above noted. I can't see basing a purchasing decision on this. On a different subject, my local Inf dealer told me that manual transmission vehicles wouldn't be in production until October. Sounded like BS to me and sure enough a dealer 30 miles down the road has one in stock. I'd heard bad things about this dealer, now I see it. Slimey, lying car salesman will affect my buying decision. I don't know how they think they could get away with this nonsense in the internet age. Replies to this message: shipo (Sep 02, 2007 9:21 am)
#81 of 87 Re: Dose of reality... [trewquis] by shipo Sep 02, 2007 (9:21 am)
Replying to: trewquis (Sep 02, 2007 7:55 am) "In any event, the point was - 50K service translates to 3 oil changes, a radiator flush, wiper blades and maybe brake pads if needed." Regarding oil changes: Figure $10.00 (dealer price) for each oil filter, and $6.00 per quart (seven quarts per change) for the oil. Assuming that you let the dealer do the three oil changes that comes out to $136.00 just for the materials for the oil changes before you add in labor costs. Said another way, I've got to figure that the standard dealer price for an oil change is an easy $100. Regarding brake replacement: It's almost an odds on bet that any BMW driven regularly in any kind of traffic will need brake pads, brake rotors and brake wear sensors within the first 50,000 miles. In addition, BMWs use DOT 4 brake fluid and also require a biannual replacement of the brake fluid. While I have no idea what a complete brake job (pads, rotors & sensors) costs these days (I do my own for a fraction of the cost), I'm quite sure it is quite a bit more expensive than you are thinking (regardless of which car you buy). Best Regards, Shipo
#82 of 87 Re: Dose of reality... [circlew] by cellvoom Sep 02, 2007 (10:59 am)
Replying to: circlew (Sep 01, 2007 10:18 am) Therein is the main difference between G owners and BMW owners. "return it in 3 years" 3 years! G owners are value conscious. We know that the only way to get value out of a depreciable item such as a car will take long term such as at least over 6 years. a german car can not on average surpass 6 years without major repair costs like a japanese car can!G buyers want long term value, like being able to put 200,000 miles or keeping something for 6 years plus without major problems. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Sep 02, 2007 11:43 am)
#83 of 87 Re: Dose of reality... [cellvoom] by kdshapiro Sep 02, 2007 (11:43 am)
Replying to: cellvoom (Sep 02, 2007 10:59 am) Infinity does not offer attractive lease rates. It is not about value conscious as you put it. For those who lease for whatever reasons, BMW typically provides very attractive lease rates. In addition, you don't really know how many people buy their BMWs. What makes you think G owners can put 200,000 miles on a particular car without problems. Seems like your post is a variation of the "all BMWs are junk" generalization.
#84 of 87 Limited Slip / Oil Cooling Issues? by ncsustats Nov 04, 2007 (5:53 pm)
So what's the verdict on these issues? I'm on a waiting list for 2008 335 sedan, will of course primarily be road driven, but will definitely be 'tracking' it and I find it amazing that a car w/ such a powerful engine could have only 1 wheel driving it?! Also, given the hoopla bmw is making over it's use of turbos, how is it than they could allow versions to be not adequately cooled?? Are these issues dealt with for 2008? If not, will bmw dealerships add additional coolers and/or limited slip?
#85 of 87 Bottom Line by circlew Nov 09, 2007 (6:00 am)
Here's a great take form Automaobile magazine which mirror MHO: With its highly entertaining dynamic aptitudes, near-BMW speed, and hot appearance, the Infiniti G37S easily tops the value chart. Anyone seeking a passionate fling will be well served in this seat. Those more interested in a long-term relationship should dig several thousand dollars deeper into their wallets for the 335i. Thanks to BMW's fanatical pursuit of driving excellence, not to mention increased pressure from the likes of Infiniti, the 335i has a death grip on Automobile Magazine's back-road crown. Regars, OW
#86 of 87 Mind the gap! by rodsterinfl Jul 03, 2009 (4:33 pm)
Although this article is considering cars that are now nearly 2 year old models, the price structure has not changed that much in 2009. I shopped for 6 months to purchase one of the two cars listed in this article. I must point out that something is definitely wrong with the price "gap" info. Why? Because if you are going to compare two cars, you need to configure them as close to the same as possilbe. I did. The 2009 Infiniti G37S Coupe is $43 with prem and nav pkgs. Those two really deck out a G and, in most cases, the lots will have cars with the premium at least ($41K). The BMW 335 coupe configured with almost exact same equipment metallic paint, prem, sport, comfort, etc rings in at $54,570, an $11,000 gap. On top of that, the local dealer would sell the BMW at your TMV price as the absolute lowest. Infinitis are selling nearly at invoice or about $3500 off sticker. I bought the Infiniti as you might guess and I KNOW that I really came away with the best car of choice. I preferred the BMW leather, the cupholders on both cars are a joke. The controls on the infiniti are very intuitive. The BMW has gobs of black buttons that all look alike. The idrive nav can be summed up as a mirage of embedded menus - turn-n-push, turn-n-push. The Nav in the G is voice activated and fantastic. The dash knob is easy to use and there are at most 3 levels in any menu. All I can say is that I like both cars but the Bimmers slight edge in certain areas is nowhere near the difference in cash nor is the reliability for people who choose to buy and keep their car. Replies to this message: nkeen (Jul 03, 2009 6:14 pm)
#87 of 87 Re: Mind the gap! [rodsterinfl] by nkeen Jul 03, 2009 (6:14 pm)
Replying to: rodsterinfl (Jul 03, 2009 4:33 pm) I think the decision to buy either has to be based on something more than a small difference in price: it has to be about which car you prefer. After owning one Japanese car (well, an American designed and built Japanese car -- an Acura TL manual trans) and having driven several others, I have decided that they and I have no affinity. I sold the TL after 24 months -- although it behaved impeccably we just didn't get along. Put it down to video game aesthetics, out-of-sorts handling feel, and the general sense that the thing was designed by committee to meet a certain set of parameters. More emphasis on electronic wizardry than the car as an end in itself. I wasn't sorry to see the back of it. The BMW 325i I own now may not be the fastest or the most comfortable, but every time I get into it, every time I throw it into a corner, I am aware that the people who created it understand cars and care about what they are doing. Sitting behind the wheel has the feel of being in an office dedicated to the task of driving. A little formal, but right. As for the cupholders, they don't belong in a car anyway, and BMWs effort to provide them demonstrates an appropriate level of contempt for the market's forcing them to make such a gesture