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#107 of 165 Re: 09 TDI Sportwagen [jogousa] by terb Jul 14, 2009 (8:14 am)
Replying to: jogousa (Jul 14, 2009 5:57 am) Thank you for the feedback. I live in Southern California. I do love the way the moon roof gives the car a more spacious feel. As long as it has the UV protection I may consider it, but am leaning in the "not getting it" direction. Who is going to invent the "moon roof heat catcher" that can be rolled back and forth for those hot times of year? Replies to this message: jogousa (Jul 14, 2009 9:12 am)
#108 of 165 Re: 09 TDI Sportwagen [colammy] by jogousa Jul 14, 2009 (9:07 am)
Replying to: colammy (Jul 14, 2009 7:59 am) I agree with you that the sunroof is a personal decision. But we are talking about glass panoramic moonroof here. I live in Flrorida now but I have lived in Southern California for 35 years and I always had a sunroof (solid metal) - but never panoramic glass roof. I took a thermometer and compared temps inside the car with factory shade and panoramic roof closed and then with my little invention - a cardboard covered with aluminum foil - and the temps differences between the two was significant! I think VW should have an option with solid-metal sunroof. I like the light as well and the spacious feeling but the VW Tdi Wagon's panoramic moonroof is not thoroughly designed, in my opinion.
#109 of 165 Re: 09 TDI Sportwagen [terb] by jogousa Jul 14, 2009 (9:12 am)
Replying to: terb (Jul 14, 2009 8:14 am) I suggest you don't get it - I lived in Palos Verdes/Torrance area and always had sun roof - but it was a solid metal. Any glass moonroof, no matter how dark it is, won't work, in my opinion. Take a car for a day or two, one with panoramic moonroof and one without (if the dealer let's you) and compare - you will see and feel the heat/temp differences on your own!
#110 of 165 Re: 09 TDI Sportwagen [jogousa] by ecotrklvr Jul 15, 2009 (8:59 pm)
Replying to: jogousa (Jul 14, 2009 3:55 am) I'd like to suggest that, from a heat gain standpoint, you're better off with your moonroof + aluminum foil, than those with a dark-colored plain roof. If you consider how much more reflective the foil is than nearly any color roof you can choose, those with no sunroof get more heat re-radiated into their cars than yours gets.   I've had at least 25 cars in So Cal thru the last 27 years - only one T-roof, one (steel) sunroof, and two (glass) moon-roofs. The white cars with plain roofs were the coolest of all. The dark cars with plain roofs were the worst, especially my '96 Maxima in Super Black. The sunroofed (steel panel, not glass) one was a dark car, so it was the same as any dark car. The glass roofed ones let in some more heat, but not so much as to offset the total solar gain of the car.   With the foil up top, your car's roof rejects more heat than anyone else's roof. Replies to this message: jogousa (Jul 15, 2009 9:18 pm) ecotrklvr (Jul 17, 2009 5:19 pm)
#111 of 165 Re: 09 TDI Sportwagen [ecotrklvr] by jogousa Jul 15, 2009 (9:18 pm)
Replying to: ecotrklvr (Jul 15, 2009 8:59 pm) Yes - and that is correct. Another consideration is that the body (roof) of the car without panoramic moon roof is more rigid and stiff. That can also be a safety advantage issue.  My VW Tdi Wagon is white and the cardboard with aluminum foil does the trick. It can easily be inserted through the open glass moon roof and placed on the mesh. But, if I had a choice, I would have bought a white wagon without the sunroof... I had to take what was available on the dealer's lot (actually, I was waiting for a shipment to arrive and I had no choice of options). It also helps, after getting the habit in So. Calif, to park the car in the shade whenever possible and also have a custom made front windshield aluminum reflective sun-shield. Combination of all of the above does the trick! Replies to this message: ecotrklvr (Jul 17, 2009 5:19 pm)
#112 of 165 Re: 09 TDI Sportwagen [jogousa] by ecotrklvr Jul 17, 2009 (5:19 pm)
Replying to: jogousa (Jul 15, 2009 9:18 pm) Yeah, I don't want or need a sunroof anytime soon. I live on South OC, and have given up on black cars. Silver's good, and am driving light blue for now. Wanted to get a green car again, but just learned that green is green because it's absorbing red and (infrared). Now if I move to Nor Cal, it'll be a different story.
#113 of 165 Re: Is It Still Possible to Find an 09 Jetta SportWagan o Should I Just wai by breju03 Jul 25, 2009 (7:23 am)
Replying to: johnrbrooks (Mar 05, 2009 3:35 pm) hello, how wast it dealing with cartelligent? did you try any other online services?   thanks
#114 of 165 Re: Is It Still Possible to Find an 09 Jetta SportWagan o Should I Just wait... [kooler] by ct2010tdi Aug 20, 2009 (7:19 pm)
Replying to: kooler (Mar 05, 2009 2:45 am) I too was growing frustrated that I could not get a TDI just the way I wanted. After waiting a number of times for the release of the 2009 TDIs, I finally bought another hi mpg commuter car. I rented a Prius for a week to test and found it okay but wanted to see the Gen 3 before buying. but kept coming back to the TDI as my best solution (for me anyway).   Well here are the facts about TDIs. Demand far exceeds Supply!! Having successfully buying at or below Invoice, I could not understand why retails expected me to pay MSRP or ABOVE!! and with a take-it or leave-it attitude. I am a rather discriminating and technical buyer. and like you a previously disappointed purchaser -- always the bride's maid not the Bride. Last week, decided I would take the first 2010 I could get -- not Red -- but almost any other configuration. (Here they are sold before they even get unloaded from the hauler trailer.)   Well as it happened, I was "hanging around" the dealer when one came in. It was a very acceptable dark Blue. SOLD. It was not till some time later that I found out is would be a M6 trans. What I wanted but could not find. No other options, but the TDI is somewhat full featured anyway. (not SEL levels but I'm ecstatic!!) I finally got mine and getting in 40+ mpg and still breaking her in.   If you can get one you can "live with" GET IT and be happy you did.   If however, you need it just so, you may have to defer the TDI until the mfg comes stateside (USA) so the supply can be on par with demand. I've heard that may be in 2-3 years.   Happy hunting.   Craig   BTW, I paid MSRP $23.7K USD, but got the 4500 clunker monies.
#115 of 165 2010 Sportwagon ? by radicalmove Aug 25, 2009 (11:46 am)
I'd be interested to know where you found the Jetta TDI Sportwagon. When the second round of the clunker program was announced, I literally searched nationwide and couldn't find one, especially not close to the way I wanted it equipped. Two dealers told me they would be willing to do a clunker deal with a 2010 MSO, but when I came up with cash and was ready to do the deal they backed down saying would be not be getting 2010's until late September at best and maybe not until October.   Before the clunker program I had a number of dealers pestering me, but they wouldn't touch my trade at anywhere near the clunker amount, and at the time they had plenty of TDI Wagons on their lots.   Thanks for the input. Replies to this message: barryob5 (Aug 25, 2009 12:05 pm)
#116 of 165 Re: 2010 Sportwagon ? [radicalmove] by barryob5 Aug 25, 2009 (12:05 pm)
Replying to: radicalmove (Aug 25, 2009 11:46 am) I bought mine at Tracy Volkswagen in Hyannis, MA. They did not have any others in stock at the time.   Since I also have a condo in Florida, I checked with Schumacher in West Palm Beach. They had tons of them (27, I think), but that was a couple of months ago. I still love the vehicle, by the way.

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