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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons

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#7292 of 7308 Re: Genesis look-alike [dean3927] by backy

Sep 22, 2012 (3:02 pm)

Replying to: dean3927 (Sep 14, 2012 6:27 pm)
I saw the 2013 Accord sedan up close today, and when I drove up to the dealership there was a sedan sitting at a curb by the dealership main building... except at first I thought it was a Genesis. An uncanny resemblance, starting with the tail lamps with the same shape, color (white on top of red), and approximate size, but in other aspects too e.g. license plate cut-out, rear bumper trunk cut-out, the way the trunk splits the tail lamps, and of course they both have the Hofmesiter kink (which the previous Accord had also). Just proves once again there's only so many ways to mold plastic and bend sheet metal for cars.
 
Looks real good on the Accord--a big improvement over the prior generation, not just in the rear but overall.

#7293 of 7308 Hyundai Equus Honored with the 2012 Motorist Choice Award by dean3927

Oct 16, 2012 (6:10 pm)

IntelliChoice and AutoPacific awarded the Hyundai Equus with the 2012 Motorist Choice Award in the Luxury Lifestyle and High Tech category. IntelliChoice and AutoPacific, both distinguished automotive research companies, annually recognize vehicles that deliver a compelling combination of high consumer satisfaction and lower-than-expected ownership cost over time.
 
“Hyundai has worked hard to create a vehicle that provides luxury car shoppers with tremendous value and amenities, and as winner in categories for Luxury Lifestyle and High Tech, demonstrates that they've surely succeeded in the mind’s eye of the consumer,” said Dan Hall, vice president, AutoPacific.
 
Hyundai’s flagship Equus successfully competes with the best sedans in the world, while adding a new level of customer experience to luxury car ownership. Since its introduction, Equus has outpaced its sales and market share expectations. The 2012 Equus features Hyundai’s most powerful engine ever, the new direct injection 5.0-liter Tau V8 engine. The new engine produces 429 horsepower and is mated to a new in-house eight-speed transmission providing Equus drivers more power and refinement.
 
“With a host of standard features and innovative technology including Hyundai’s most powerful engine, the 2012 Equus offers customers a perfect marriage of luxury and affordability,” said Scott Margason, director, Product Planning, Hyundai Motor America. “This recognition from IntelliChoice and AutoPacific is proof that our flagship sedan is a true competitor amongst the most sought out luxury sedans in the market.”
 
For a complete list of award winners, visit http://www.autopacific.com/2012-award-winners
(Scroll Down for Motorist Choice)

#7294 of 7308 Re: Hyundai Equus Honored with the 2012 Motorist Choice Award [dean3927] by victor23

Oct 17, 2012 (7:50 am)

Replying to: dean3927 (Oct 16, 2012 6:10 pm)
IntelliChoice and AutoPacific awarded the Hyundai Equus with the 2012 Motorist Choice Award in the Luxury Lifestyle and High Tech category.
 
In both categories, the Equus is qualified as a "popular", not a "premium" vehicle. In "premium", Porsche Cayenne and Cadillac Escalade won these categories.

#7295 of 7308 Re: Hyundai Equus Honored with the 2012 Motorist Choice Award [victor23] by fintail

Oct 17, 2012 (8:44 am)

Replying to: victor23 (Oct 17, 2012 7:50 am)
Too much "competes with" schtick there - sounds like ad copy. The true measure will be sales.

#7296 of 7308 It may end up to be a couple of good models in a bad brand.. by wtl

Nov 15, 2012 (7:53 am)

Genesis was my first choice since it looks nice, drives nice and has more discounts/incentives compare with my other two choices. As I search various forums, hearing people whining about how unsatisfied with the dealer treatment as people paid good $35k and above for genesis, not to mention the incompetence to fix the car at first time truly drives me away from Hyundai.
For the past couple of weeks, I was looking to buy a genesis, test drove and love it but didn't realy want to commit until I have a chance to see the 2013 Avalon. I was also test drove the BMW x1 since it has easy accessible space for a full size cello. I can tell the difference from the moment I walked into the BMW showroom. I do think Hyundai has a long way to go to become a truly luxury car brand, at least I don't think it's even comparable with Toyota. There are some fundamentals for a luxury brand to success that are just not there today. As for me, my choices have gone down to two.

#7297 of 7308 . by fintail

Nov 20, 2012 (11:03 am)

I just bought a pile of German magazines as souvenirs - I see someone had the gall to base the V6 Genesis coupe (no sedan there) at EUR 39.5K. In Germany, you can get a nice enough C or 3er coupe for the same money, or a base E coupe for EUR 2K more. Seems a little ambitious, or as I like to call it, stupid. Is it Korean arrogance, or German suits trying to sabotage?

#7298 of 7308 Re: . [fintail] by robr2

Nov 20, 2012 (11:21 am)

Replying to: fintail (Nov 20, 2012 11:03 am)
I see someone had the gall to base the V6 Genesis coupe (no sedan there) at EUR 39.5K.
 
I don't even see the Genesis coupe on hyundai.de.
 
The only reference I could find to the coupe in Germany was a limited edition of 50 GT's based on a racing team Genesis owned by a German dealer.
 
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/08/limited-edition-hyundai-genesis-coupe- -gt-heading-to-germany.html

#7299 of 7308 Re: . [robr2] by fintail

Nov 20, 2012 (11:30 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 20, 2012 11:21 am)
This is per the Fall 2012 "Auto Kauf" buyers guide published by "Auto Motor und Sport" (probably the most respected car rag in continental Europe). The 2013 "Auto Katalog" published by the same source also lists the Genesis coupe with 4cyl (EUR 6K less) and 6cyl.

#7300 of 7308 Re: . [fintail] by robr2

Nov 20, 2012 (11:48 am)

Replying to: fintail (Nov 20, 2012 11:30 am)
I'm just reporting. The Genesis isn't on Hyundai.de so I was curious and dug around.
 
I did check out Auto Motor and Sport's website and they have a test. They didn't seem critical of it and noted a price of E36K for the stick and an adder of E1900 for the slushbox.
 
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrberichte/hyundai-genesis-coupe-gt-coupe-m- it-nordschleifen-schliff-4317073.html

#7301 of 7308 Re: . [robr2] by fintail

Nov 20, 2012 (11:58 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 20, 2012 11:48 am)
Some European maker websites are unexceptional.
 
Maybe prices increased - the paper I have claimed 39.5K for the V6. Still seems like unexceptional value compared to the US - almost like they are kind of wanting to not make it. The magazine indeed doesn't say it is bad (although seems to complain about declining interior material quality), but for the money, it's a toughie. The Genesis sedan not existing there (not to mention the Equus) also says something. Maybe not so many upmarket aspirations there.
 
Could be worse though, I flipped the page and saw the Infiniti FX50 for a mere 75.6K, which is significantly more than say a diesel Range Rover Sport there.

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