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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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#3823 of 4250 Re: reality [carolinabob] by backy Oct 28, 2009 (2:30 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 28, 2009 2:16 pm) So you don't like the way the 2009 Genesis (I assume you haven't driven the 2010 model yet) rides. Fine. You don't like the interior. Fine. You don't like HMA's customer service. Fine. You should buy a car you like, from a company that gives you an acceptable level of service.   Why add the sweeping (and inaccurate) generalizations about the credit of Hyundai buyers?
#3824 of 4250 Re: reality [carolinabob] by audiobuff Oct 28, 2009 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 28, 2009 2:16 pm) After having a M-B (E Class), Infiniti(M35) and an Acura (RL) we leased a 2009 Genesis v8 last year. Now with over 23K miles on it, and not a problem , we have a second one (a 2010 v8) and never looked back!!! Replies to this message: toye (Oct 28, 2009 5:29 pm) deltheking (Oct 28, 2009 6:59 pm) bobad (Oct 29, 2009 8:28 am)
#3825 of 4250 Re: reality [audiobuff] by toye Oct 28, 2009 (5:29 pm)
Replying to: audiobuff (Oct 28, 2009 2:54 pm) There are alot of former MB, BMW, LEXUS and INFINITITY that have bought the Genesis and have no regret on their purchase. It's so sad that when a couple of bloggers get on this forum they trash Hyundai every chance they get. Grant you no car company is perfect..but Hyundai has done an excellent job in the last decade to improve their product, image and service. Replies to this message: deltheking (Oct 28, 2009 6:59 pm) bobad (Oct 29, 2009 8:28 am)
#3826 of 4250 Re: reality [toye] by deltheking Oct 28, 2009 (6:59 pm)
Replying to: toye (Oct 28, 2009 5:29 pm) All Hyundai critics must go and buy a GM or Chrysler/Dodge. C'mon guys-Give credit where it is due. Hyundai have done a remarkable turnaround from the tinboxes of the 90`s. GM and chrysler have been around for decades and their quality is pathetic. Infact Toyota/Honda fear Hyundai/Kia more than anyone else.    I like Lexus/Toyota and have both of them but I must say the new Hyundai products are of very good quality. I feel they are giving Toyonda a run for their money. And I always favor competition. Helps Toyota keep making better comfy,plushy quiet cars that I like. But unfortunately and this is real sad--Hyundai still has a stigma attached to it . Unfortunately that`s the real world scenario. Car folks though know that a Hyundai is a great bargain especially a used one. But for the general folks out there- It takes time for perceptions to change .   But it wont take a long time like Toyonda b`cos this is the age of the internet and news,reviews,reliability data travel real fast. Still, a luxury car needs a separate image and branding . That`s how luxury buyers perceive it. Sad but true.Hyundai in the near future will definitely set up a totally new luxury brand. Absolutely no doubt. The timing now is just not right,so they are just waiting and playing it it safe and calculated. They have a simple strategy- Make really good reliable cars , have a couple of luxury optioned cars- Get the brand image up,the ratings and reviews up,reliability stats up and then set up a luxury brand.   A luxury car is almost always about branding . Why? It`s just the way it is. Sad,it just can`t be helped. For example- A loaded Toyota Avalon I feel is much much better than the entry Lexus ES. Still the ES is a Lexus and the Avalon a Toyota. I know , I know - that`s not the truth . But that`s the way it goes. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder !!
#3827 of 4250 Re: reality [carolinabob] by wayne52 Oct 28, 2009 (8:17 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 28, 2009 12:47 pm) Bob, may I ask how much the Hyundai Associates Purchase Program discount is for you? i.e. How much of a savings you are willing to pass on because of your feelings toward Hyundai. Replies to this message: backy (Oct 29, 2009 5:08 am)
#3829 of 4250 Re: reality [british_rover] by lemko Oct 29, 2009 (4:56 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Oct 28, 2009 1:17 pm) Yeesh!!! What reckless and self-destructive individual would agree to those terms? That's worse than a credit card! One must really really want a Land Rover!
#3830 of 4250 Re: sandwiched between the Taurus SHO and the Avalon Limited [carolinabob] by lemko Oct 29, 2009 (5:00 am)
Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 28, 2009 2:06 pm) Well, the Azera seems to be the forgotten "middle brother" between the Sonata and the Genesis. Plus the name Azera makes me think of the evil wizard Gargamel's cat Azrael from "The Smurfs."
#3831 of 4250 Re: reality [carolinabob] by backy Oct 29, 2009 (5:08 am)
Why do you think stating useful, factual information such as the discount that Think Tank members receive would bring down an attack on you?   BTW, it's easy to get into the Hyundai Think Tank if you're over 50. I should know.
#3832 of 4250 Re: reality [carolinabob] by bobad Oct 29, 2009 (8:22 am)
Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 28, 2009 2:16 pm) There are even complaints on the official Hyundai Think Tank site-   But of course. Since you are a member, I expected as much. Replies to this message: toye (Oct 29, 2009 8:37 am)

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