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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4207 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 7:46 AM
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Replying to: bobad (Jul 12, 2009 2:35 pm) |
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 12, 2009 5:35 pm) PS I've never been in the 5 or 7 series but in a 3 series plenty of times |
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Replying to: toye (Jul 12, 2009 6:20 pm) |
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Replying to: toye (Jul 12, 2009 6:20 pm) A 3er isn't really a luxury car...a premium car, yes. On the styling note, I will admit I am not so turned off by the weird beltline dip behind the B-pillar of the coupe. I'm still really not seeing any coupes on the road though.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 12, 2009 8:19 pm) Your right on the 3 series it really isn't a luxury but premium, but as materialistic as South Forida is many people here crave a BMW and the 3 series is the only BMW that comes close to being affordable. It's that prestige factor, or status symbol that many people crave. Hell with the bad economy many people have had to give up their "baby" for something more afordable. I know two women that took over leases of 3 series because of the original owners couldn't keep up with the payments.
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is indeed viewed as the it cars for those wannabes. Me, I personally classify it in the same class as Infiniti G, entry level luxury. Of course, the barrier between entry level luxury and upper level near luxury is very blur indeed. As more and more cars are trying to fill in every niche gap in existence the classifications will at one point become way too complex for humanity to comprehend IMO. Bobad: nothing new under the sun? I disagree. Then what do you call Audi's current theme? No other company has yet to create such style. There are several (but few) automakers that offer distinct styling, Cadillac and Audi are some of them, and to some extent, Infiniti. IMO we can;t really use Japanese brands as the styling cue, as they're mostly copying from European designs. I'm really curious to see if Hyundai will, one day, find it's own original theme, one that can last that is.
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Replying to: toye (Jul 13, 2009 1:29 pm) |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 14, 2009 6:42 am) You have probably not seen Hyundai's latest designs, but the next-gen Tucson is quite striking, and unique I think. The 2011 Sonata will be a big departure from the current car but has a similarity to the CC. And of course the Genesis coupe has some uncommon styling elements. There are also other designs in the works--you can see some of them at hyundai.com. Recall that Hyundai did go "original" in the past with mixed results. The original Santa Fe is one example. The Japanese, especially Honda and Toyota, have proven over the years that vanilla sells cars as well as ice cream. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 14, 2009 6:42 am) I'm not saying that no car looks unique, just that no car looks totally unique. Audi's front, rear, and profile all look familiar to me. It would take a lot of study, but anyone could find features on the Audi's or any car that reminds them of several other cars. What frosts me is the auto writers automatically assume that Genesis copied just because some features remind them of other cars. They automatically assume that because Genesis styling is so nice, that Hyundai couldn't have come up with it themselves. Hyundai happens to have a great styling team (that got raided by Toyota a while back) Unlike the writers, Audi and BMW don't get a free pass from me just because of their legendary badges. I'm not criticizing any auto maker for accidentally borrowing styling cues. It happens, but there's nothing they hate more than their cars resembling any other car. They spend big bucks on stylists and spies to make sure it doesn't happen. There's just too many cars, and it usually happens anyway.
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Replying to: bobad (Jul 14, 2009 11:56 am) There's a definite Hofmeister kink in the Genesis, and the front profile is very Lexus. The rear profile seems kind of BMW, too. I will say the grille is original...and I don't see anyone running to copy it, either  Most styling cues do not evolve by accident. The resemblance between the original Lexus LS and the MB W126 was no coincidence, for example.
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