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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

4223 messages,  Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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Re: Made the top 5 [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST
Jun 24, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 24, 2009 8:23 am)

Excellent point about the small difference in the top ten and the bottom ten on the survey.
 
Ok, time for a plug for the Genesis long term blog post earlier this week - it's all about quality (if you consider class to be an element of quality):
 
2009 Hyundai Genesis V6: Classy Looking Interior
 
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Re: Made the top 5 [steve_] by ateixeira
Jun 24, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 24, 2009 9:25 am)

The leather on the dash looks great. Cover the H and ask someone what that car costs, and don't be surprised to hear numbers approaching 6 figures.
 
I like the chrome trim on the steering wheel - very subtle, tasteful. I'd prefer less of the silvery stuff on the center console, though. Flat, matte black or wood would be better there.
 
The trim around the outer vents and the stripe at the top of the leather strip also look nice.
 
I sat my wife in one of these at a car show and she said "This is a HYUNDAI?!"
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Re: Made the top 5 [ateixeira] by backy
Jun 24, 2009 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 24, 2009 8:41 am)

Actually the JD Powers IQS doesn't just measure defects but asks about buyers' opinions of car design, features etc. That is a relatively recent change in the IQS--in the past it did just measure defects. But I agree that Hyundai's bump up in the IQS is impressive when you consider it included the all-new Genesis sedan (with lots of techno-features, btw), a reworked Sonata, and the relatively new Veracruz (also a model with lots of gizmos that could break). I don't think the Genesis coupe and Elantra Touring were out in time to be included in this most recent IQS.
 
I think the need for automakers to compete with each other on technology outweighs any tendency they might have to hold back on tech because of the implications in their JD Power IQS score.
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Re: Made the top 5 [steve_] by fintail
Jun 24, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 24, 2009 9:25 am)

I hope all that silver is actually metal and not plastic.
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Re: Made the top 5 [fintail] by backy
Jun 24, 2009 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 24, 2009 10:37 am)

Titanium alloy no doubt.
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Re: Made the top 5 [fintail] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 24, 2009 10:37 am)

Ah, you know those Genesis interiors are made from those ultra-exotic materials known as plood, pleather, and pluminum!
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Re: Made the top 5 [lemko] by ateixeira
Jun 25, 2009 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 24, 2009 11:33 am)

I think the leather is actually real.
 
Not sure about the wood and aluminum, though.
 
Real aluminum can be a bad thing - it dings very easily, such as when you hit a briefcase against it. And then good luck getting that dent out.
 
Plastic is usually painted and that scratches, but it's far more resilient than aluminum.
 
Wood looks great but over time it can warp and crack. And of course the appearance will depend on the quality of the finish.
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Interior by m4d_cow
Jul 08, 2009 (12:01 am)
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Regarding the interior, well even without the badge I'd never mistake it for something costing more than 50k.
 
The leather is real, I'm very sure of it. Lexusgrade? No, but about the same level as Acura or Cadillac IMO.
 
The wood and metal, no matter what some others here say, are definitely plastic. I will never change my opinion about that. Wood is NOT flexable, plastiwood is. Real metal heats up fast, plastic doesn't.
 
All things said, the quality of those materials are good, and overall, an effort worthy of praise.
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Re: Interior [m4d_cow] by bobad
Jul 08, 2009 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 08, 2009 12:01 am)

Did you see the R/R being manufactured on Discovery/History channel?
 
All "wood" panels are actually plastic, covered with very thin wood veneer. So yea, "wood" parts can be flexible. But I don't think the Genesis has any real wood, not AFAIK.
 
I read on one of the auto magazine sites (or maybe saw it on TV) that the Genesis console was real aluminum. Unless the aluminum is paper thin, it's very durable.
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Re: Interior [bobad] by m4d_cow
Jul 09, 2009 (12:24 am)
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Replying to: bobad (Jul 08, 2009 10:40 am)

Hoo interesting, I should watch that.... I wonder if RR is breaking from tradition, though it's only natural since plastic layers increase the durability of the materials.

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