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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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#2455 of 3972 Re: The Hyundai Cinderella Story [m4d_cow] by joe97 May 27, 2009 (5:49 pm)
Replying to: m4d_cow (May 26, 2009 10:17 am) Perhaps Fiat may get into the top 5 if they'd get their way of acquiring all of the troubled brands ie Chrysler, GM Europe. People are saying Fiat may becom the new GM (no, that wasn't a complement). Replies to this message: m4d_cow (May 28, 2009 3:01 am) ateixeira (May 28, 2009 7:58 am) m4d_cow (May 29, 2009 4:52 am)
#2456 of 3972 Re: The Hyundai Cinderella Story [ateixeira] by joe97 May 27, 2009 (6:02 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 27, 2009 8:14 am) VW has a large presence in Europe (obviously), China, and South America.   China is one of the few Asian markets VW has tapped, benefiting largely from its early entry into the market.   Other Asian countries, however, VW has not been as successful, such as another large market, India (where Maruti Suzuki and Hyundai are the two of the larger players).
#2457 of 3972 Re: The Hyundai Cinderella Story [joe97] by m4d_cow May 28, 2009 (3:01 am)
Replying to: joe97 (May 27, 2009 5:49 pm) Fiat's been in constant profit nowadays, but they've just come out of a dark recent past. I agree with you, it seems too obsessed on upsizing, not a good thing. Replies to this message: ateixeira (May 28, 2009 7:58 am) m4d_cow (May 29, 2009 4:52 am)
#2458 of 3972 Re: The Hyundai Cinderella Story [m4d_cow] by ateixeira May 28, 2009 (7:58 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (May 28, 2009 3:01 am) Oh my, is it even possible? We all agree on something.   Quick, back to disagreeing about Hyundai. I'm starting to feel too warm and fuzzy. Replies to this message: m4d_cow (May 29, 2009 4:52 am)
#2459 of 3972 Re: The Hyundai Cinderella Story [ateixeira] by m4d_cow May 29, 2009 (4:52 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (May 28, 2009 7:58 am) That's easy to do, but where do we start from?
#2460 of 3972 Made the top 5 by steve_ HOST Jun 22, 2009 (9:30 am)
Porsche was the No. 2 brand, followed by GM's Cadillac, then Hyundai and Honda.   Lexus was No. 1. This is the annual Initial Quality study, not one of the long term ones.   "J.D. Power credited the improvement to several well-received new models that were launched in 2009. It said vehicles like Hyundai's Genesis, Kia's Borrego, Toyota's Venza and Volkswagen's CC performed better than their segment averages. Several redesigned 2009 models also scored well, J.D. Power said."   Study: Detroit lifts quality but Toyota still king (Yahoo) Replies to this message: fintail (Jun 22, 2009 11:19 am) ateixeira (Jun 22, 2009 11:32 am) hjc1 (Jun 22, 2009 4:36 pm) houdini1 (Jun 23, 2009 5:27 am) steve_ (Jun 23, 2009 7:08 am) carolinabob (Jun 23, 2009 7:30 am) and 14 more... backy (Jun 23, 2009 8:16 am) houdini1 (Jun 23, 2009 11:47 am)
#2461 of 3972 Re: Made the top 5 [steve_] by fintail Jun 22, 2009 (11:19 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jun 22, 2009 9:30 am) As I have seen zero of them on the road, I have no proof that the Borrego actually exists
#2462 of 3972 Re: Made the top 5 [steve_] by ateixeira Jun 22, 2009 (11:32 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jun 22, 2009 9:30 am) It's a good sign, but IMHO not very meaningful, as it only covers the first 90 days of ownership (when you're under warranty anyway). In other words, it's not a good predictor of long-term durability. Replies to this message: hjc1 (Jun 22, 2009 4:36 pm)
#2463 of 3972 Re: Made the top 5 [ateixeira] by hjc1 Jun 22, 2009 (4:36 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 22, 2009 11:32 am) I have owned a 04 XG350, 07 Azera and now own a 08 loaded Entourage. All 3 cars never had any problems.. I wish I could say that about The Toyota products and Audi cars that I have owned before. I'm sold on Hyundai products and the dealership that I deal with.
#2464 of 3972 Re: Made the top 5 [steve_] by houdini1 Jun 23, 2009 (5:27 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jun 22, 2009 9:30 am) Thanks for posting that report. The most amazing thing to me was that Lexus, the top brand, had .84 problems per vehicle while Mini, the worst brand had only 1.62 problems per vehicle. A difference of less than one problem per car separated first from last. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jun 23, 2009 7:08 am) carolinabob (Jun 23, 2009 7:30 am) steve_ (Jun 23, 2009 8:37 am) and 13 more... backy (Jun 23, 2009 8:16 am) houdini1 (Jun 23, 2009 11:47 am)

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