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#2435 of 3976 Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [backy] by joe97 May 21, 2009 (12:58 pm)
Replying to: backy (May 20, 2009 7:58 am) If you look at C/D's evaluation, you'll notice that the only thing the Camaro "beat" the Genesis coupe on is "Gotta have it", which is a totally subjective (and I think ridiculous) criterion. If the editors had given the Camaro one less point there and the Genesis one more point, the Genesis would have won the comparo. The Genesis beat out the Camaro in the scoring categories related to the actual features and performance of the cars themselves.    C/D also understated the price of the Camaro on the cover of the mag by several thousand dollars. Typo? I wonder...    These two things lead me to believe that C/D had a particular car in mind for the winner of the comparo before it began.   Agreed. Also, I thought it was strange C/D only scored a 5 for the Genesis on the ride category, and a 9 for the Camaro. Really? That was a little fishy, I thought.   At the end of the day, the overall score was 203 Camaro and 202 for the Genesis, maybe a coincidence, maybe not... Replies to this message: backy (May 21, 2009 2:46 pm) joe97 (May 21, 2009 3:29 pm) ateixeira (May 22, 2009 6:09 am)
#2436 of 3976 "The lineup that has the competition worried" by dean3927 May 21, 2009 (2:16 pm)
http://www.myride.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_id_int- - /6366/id/4;ride/id/30188
#2437 of 3976 Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [joe97] by backy May 21, 2009 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: joe97 (May 21, 2009 12:58 pm) Also, I thought it was strange C/D only scored a 5 for the Genesis on the ride category, and a 9 for the Camaro.   That was one part of the review that made sense to me. They did note the firm ride of the Genesis coupe compared to that of the Camaro. Replies to this message: joe97 (May 21, 2009 3:29 pm) ateixeira (May 22, 2009 6:09 am)
#2438 of 3976 Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [backy] by joe97 May 21, 2009 (3:29 pm)
Replying to: backy (May 21, 2009 2:46 pm) The ride of both vehicles weren't spectacular, and that was somewhat expected, but certainly, I did not feel the ride of the GC was so far off from Camaro's it warranted such a low score. I understand the test car was a Track model, so trade-off was in the cards, but still...   Overall, there were parts of the review that begged for questions; while others hit the points on the head. Bottom line, two excellent sport coupes each with their own merits and drawbacks - Camaro has the got-to-have-it edge (per C/D); the Genesis Coupe maintains as a more fun-to-drive car
#2439 of 3976 Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [backy] by ateixeira May 22, 2009 (6:09 am)
Replying to: backy (May 21, 2009 2:46 pm) Cars.com's review of the Camaro also complimented its ride (superior to the Mustang and Challenger in their opinion), so that's consistent with other reviews at least.
#2440 of 3976 Re: of course there is room... [fintail] by lightfootfl May 22, 2009 (7:12 am)
Replying to: fintail (May 19, 2009 1:40 pm) Greenhouse?? Just because you might like to look through slots rather than windows is no reason to condemn those of us who want to see out without twisting and turning etc as you might have to do in some vehicles. I think that windows any smaller than those seen here should not be allowed, because of restricted vision of the road. Try looking out of the Chrysler products. Is that what you want?? Of course we are all entitled to our opinion, and this is mine. van Replies to this message: fintail (May 22, 2009 7:31 am) lightfootfl (May 22, 2009 9:09 am) m4d_cow (May 22, 2009 10:01 am) fourteen14 (May 22, 2009 8:26 pm)
#2441 of 3976 Re: of course there is room... [lightfootfl] by fintail May 22, 2009 (7:31 am)
Replying to: lightfootfl (May 22, 2009 7:12 am) "Greenhouse" is the accepted term for the area of the car above the beltline, that contains the glass and A-B-C pillars etc. The term makes no value judgement about the size of the windows.   I too prefer larger windows over the tank-like slits that have come into fashion. Replies to this message: lightfootfl (May 22, 2009 9:09 am) m4d_cow (May 22, 2009 10:01 am)
#2442 of 3976 Re: of course there is room... [fintail] by lightfootfl May 22, 2009 (9:09 am)
Replying to: fintail (May 22, 2009 7:31 am) Thanks for that info, it shows me how far out of sinc I am with the rest of the world. van
#2443 of 3976 Re: of course there is room... [fintail] by m4d_cow May 22, 2009 (10:01 am)
Replying to: fintail (May 22, 2009 7:31 am) LOL not me. I don't care about the size of the window areas, each has his/her own tastes. However if accidents and visibility are the reasons to say it shouldn;t be allowed, I say if they can't drive properly with those, err slits, shouldn't be allowed to drive at all, because that simply means they don't know how to drive. Just my 2 cents.
#2444 of 3976 Re: of course there is room... [lightfootfl] by fourteen14 May 22, 2009 (8:26 pm)
Replying to: lightfootfl (May 22, 2009 7:12 am) ""Try looking out of the Chrysler products. Is that what you want?? ""   If that Chrysler product is a Dodge Magnum, then YES!! The Magnum windows may look short from the outside, but from the inside for over four years they have worked just fine! The low windshield is really nice when traveling West near sundown. Much better than sitting in some of those goldfish bowels out there!!   .

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