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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

4160 messages,  Last post on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:56 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [ateixeira] by captain2
May 19, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 19, 2009 11:36 am)

If the idea is to separate Hyundai/Genesis from lowly (but often mechanically quite similar) Kia - then sure it is working. But going 'slightly' upscale is a long way from any presence in the luxury end of things.
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Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [joe97] by captain2
May 19, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (May 19, 2009 10:58 am)

This is a very very good first effort for Hyundai in the RWD sports car class
I guess this must be the official 'H' boy attitude because it sure isn't what the mags are saying about it. Something not even competitive with the antiquated Mustang - wow - talk about unbridled excitement! Thanks anyway, but I'd rather spend a few extra dollars on that Z, or even better, on the '10 Camaro.
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Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [captain2] by tenpin288
May 19, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (May 19, 2009 12:24 pm)

Then maybe you should check out the latest Car and Driver comparo of the Genesis Coupe 3.8 and the '10 Camaro V6.
 
Genesis vs Camaro
 
This sporty coupe is direct and visceral, the first Korean car to get our blood pumping. It’s a little rough around the edges, but Hyundai has a habit of catching up. Fast.
 
Seems like they like it a little better than you seem to.
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Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [captain2] by joe97
May 19, 2009 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (May 19, 2009 12:24 pm)

Really? What mags have you been reading? The oldies? Go to any credible reviews and you would find the praise for the Genesis Coupe. Is it world-class? No. But a turbo 4 for 22K, a V6 for 25K, a R Spec for 23K? Sign me up.
 
More importantly, have you driven the Genesis Coupe yet?
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Re: of course there is room... [joe97] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (May 19, 2009 11:43 am)

I've seen images online, and that video posted here. Doesn't strike me as a significant jump from a Genesis, and the styling is almost invisible.
 
The thing is going to need a heavy renovation in the styling department to actually have a chance. Maybe it can ape the fakey BMW-esque C-pillar kink of the Genesis and actually develop a styling theme for the brand.
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Re: of course there is room... [fintail] by joe97
May 19, 2009 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 19, 2009 1:14 pm)

The thing is going to need a heavy renovation in the styling department to actually have a chance.
 
And cars in the class are beauty queens? People buy cars for more than just styling. Styling also happen to be quite subjective.
 
On the other hand, Equus/Azera comparo - you are still the first person I've come across to bring up these two...
 

 
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Re: of course there is room... [joe97] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (May 19, 2009 1:35 pm)

When you're a new entrant, you handicap yourself by being bland. Of course, you can also handicap yourself by being ugly - like the Optima.
 
Look at the greenhouse and the rear quarters. One is just a bigger version of the other.
 
I am sure I am the first person you have encountered who would say that....swoopy H fanboys don't like to question the company of devotion
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Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [joe97] by captain2
May 19, 2009 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (May 19, 2009 1:09 pm)

yeah, quite old and uncreditable, as I said in my original post - May 09 MT
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Re: of course there is room... [fintail] by bobad
May 19, 2009 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 19, 2009 1:40 pm)

You keep making derogatory remarks about Genesis styling, but your opinion is in the minority, by far. Genesis owners are getting many inquiries and compliments on the car.
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Re: Genesis vs. Ford vs. Nissan [captain2] by tenpin288
May 19, 2009 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (May 19, 2009 1:47 pm)

Captain,
 
OK, we know how you feel based on your reference to the 5/09 MT comparo, what are your thoughts on the 6/09 Car and Driver test I referenced a few posts back? Inquiring minds want to know.

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