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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4226 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 8:30 AM
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:16 am) 
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Replying to: Jozz (Jan 14, 2009 1:03 pm) |
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:21 am) The market obviously respects the ES, would it feel likewise if it had the Toyota belt buckle? I wouldn't bet on it. The badge indeed makes the difference for that car - to the mass market. Not all of us think as it does. |
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 8:39 pm)  or replace the Airbag:
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Replying to: cviz821 (Jan 14, 2009 2:13 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 2:15 pm) Genesis - Lexus Photos |
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With better values around, Lexus is for suckers, Mercedes is for stupid suckers, and the most stupid suckers are the proud ones. This is the most pathetic comment I've ever heard. If you don't like it, then dont, but please don't start calling names on other people's choices. Mercedes, Lexus, Audi and the likes have things Hyundai doesn't have yet: 1) Luxury quality product 2) red carpet customer service 3) reputation - image, you name it. Except for number 3, which is debateable, you can't deny that Genesis is still inferior to the big names. Time and experience will fix this like I said.
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So does this Bentley owner 
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 15, 2009 1:08 am) Except for number 3, which is debateable, you can't deny that Genesis is still inferior to the big names. Time and experience will fix this like I said. Yes I can deny it. Audi, MB, and BMW have a horrible reputation high maintenance costs. Things like engines blowing, transmission problems, fancy mirrors leaking and ruining the carpets, wiring problems, you name it. People are so blinded by the badge mystique they can't see the reality. When a cars fall apart like the above, it would be nice to have a 10/100 warranty. Sorry to say you won't be getting one. In my opinion, luxury car owners shouldn't be treated that way.  rhduke00, if I owned a Bentley, I would definitely put a Hyundai or other handy badge on it. It wouldn't affect the car 1 bit, and would fool stupid thieves that look for expensive cars. 
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Audi, MB, and BMW have a horrible reputation high maintenance costs. Things like engines blowing, transmission problems, fancy mirrors leaking and ruining the carpets, wiring problems, you name it. People are so blinded by the badge mystique they can't see the reality. The reality you missed is people don't really care about those as long as they get the red carpet treatment. Audis are really popular in my area despite the notorious electrical problems in their cars. Why? because the customer service is excellent. Local BMW otoh has been trailing Audi in sales since 2006 due to their crappy service by luxury standard. Even lexus has its fair share of problems, but do owners care? Not really, beacuse of the badge? Yes for some, but for many others they know the problem will be handled professionally, quickly, and as hassle free as possible. The only thing you point out from so many different things to consider about a luxury car is "reliability" here. Another one is "value". What about: quality, materials, comfort, proper customer service, refinement????
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