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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

4239 messages,  Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 6:53 AM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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Re: First time poster here [lemko] by Jozz
Jan 14, 2009 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 14, 2009 10:22 am)

Well, if you prefer throwing around labels...
 
With better values around, Lexus is for suckers, Mercedes is for stupid suckers, and the most stupid suckers are the proud ones.
 
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    Re: First time poster here [backy] by lemko
    Jan 14, 2009 (10:22 am)
 
Lots of poseurs out there. They'd rather have a Mercedes or a Lexus, etc. but they are too poor or cheap to buy one.
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Re: [backy] by fintail
Jan 14, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:16 am)

Emblem from a 1984:
 
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Re: First time poster here [Jozz] by fintail
Jan 14, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: Jozz (Jan 14, 2009 1:03 pm)

Anyone who doesn't buy a Hyundai is a sucker or a poseur. The swoopy H is where it's at. Now that they have destroyed the cred of the Japanese, BMW and MB better watch their backs...
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Re: [backy] by fintail
Jan 14, 2009 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:21 am)

Yeah, RWD sedan with available V8 vs deluxe Camrys made to appeal to the 50+ crowd...there's some kind of disconnect there.
 
The market obviously respects the ES, would it feel likewise if it had the Toyota belt buckle? I wouldn't bet on it. The badge indeed makes the difference for that car - to the mass market. Not all of us think as it does.
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Re: [fintail] by cviz821
Jan 14, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 8:39 pm)

Yes, there is two options for the steering wheel. You can place an emblem over the swoopy H like this :
 

 
or replace the Airbag:
 
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Re: [cviz821] by fintail
Jan 14, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: cviz821 (Jan 14, 2009 2:13 pm)

First one looks pretty cheapo, but the second one is convincing. Nice to see consumers doing what the carmaker maybe should have done itself.
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Re: [fintail] by cviz821
Jan 14, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 2:15 pm)

Checkout this link and view the comparsion photos of the Hyundai Genesis and Lexus 460. Unfortunately, the Genesis photos are of a V6 w/ Premimum Pkg and not the V8 w/ Tech package which is very simular to the Lexus 460
 
Genesis - Lexus Photos
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by m4d_cow
Jan 15, 2009 (1:08 am)
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With better values around, Lexus is for suckers, Mercedes is for stupid suckers, and the most stupid suckers are the proud ones.
 
This is the most pathetic comment I've ever heard. If you don't like it, then dont, but please don't start calling names on other people's choices.
 
Mercedes, Lexus, Audi and the likes have things Hyundai doesn't have yet:
1) Luxury quality product
2) red carpet customer service
3) reputation - image, you name it.
Except for number 3, which is debateable, you can't deny that Genesis is still inferior to the big names. Time and experience will fix this like I said.
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I like Hyundai's Emblem by rhduke00
Jan 15, 2009 (2:23 am)
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So does this Bentley owner
 
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Re: [m4d_cow] by bobad
Jan 15, 2009 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 15, 2009 1:08 am)

3) reputation - image, you name it.
Except for number 3, which is debateable, you can't deny that Genesis is still inferior to the big names. Time and experience will fix this like I said.

 
Yes I can deny it.
 
Audi, MB, and BMW have a horrible reputation high maintenance costs. Things like engines blowing, transmission problems, fancy mirrors leaking and ruining the carpets, wiring problems, you name it. People are so blinded by the badge mystique they can't see the reality.
 
When a cars fall apart like the above, it would be nice to have a 10/100 warranty. Sorry to say you won't be getting one. In my opinion, luxury car owners shouldn't be treated that way.
 
rhduke00, if I owned a Bentley, I would definitely put a Hyundai or other handy badge on it. It wouldn't affect the car 1 bit, and would fool stupid thieves that look for expensive cars.

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