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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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Re: [fintail] by backy
Jan 14, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 8:19 am)

Yes, one who lumps the ES in with the Genesis in some bizarre comparison certainly has a right to lecture others about logic and consistency...
 
Since you were the one who brought the Lexus ES into this thread, you are saying then that gives you the right to lecture us about logic and consistency?
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Re: [ateixeira] by backy
Jan 14, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:20 am)

Actually, in today's dollars, some of Hyundai's cars, specifically the Accent, are about the same price as the Excel. Pretty amazing when you compare what you could get in 1986 to what you can get today for basically the same bucks.
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Re: [backy] by ateixeira
Jan 14, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 9:24 am)

Accent exists just so they can say they have the lowest priced car.
 
It's existence is definitely an obstacle for the Genesis' image.
 
But so is the A-class for any AMG or S-class.
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Re: [backy] by lemko
Jan 14, 2009 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 8:45 pm)

Cheap chromed plastic or not, it still looks a billion times better than the "swoopy H." Kia made the same mistake with the Amanti. It looks nice until you see the Kia oval which simply screams "CHEAP!!!"
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Re: First time poster here [backy] by lemko
Jan 14, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 8:21 am)

Lots of poseurs out there. They'd rather have a Mercedes or a Lexus, etc. but they are too poor or cheap to buy one.
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Re: [fintail] by bobad
Jan 14, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 8:23 am)

Good try, but if you check my posts, I'm the guy who refuses to bow to any badge. According to your posts, you are the guy who has a fixation on badges. How bizarre.
 
Owners of other luxury cars are liking the Genesis, saying it stacks up well with other luxury cars they have owned. That's the ultimate testimonial, because there is probably little bias. How can you argue with that?
 
Why is it I don't remember ever seeing a badge on the Genesis?
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Re: [backy] by lemko
Jan 14, 2009 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 8:27 am)

What did Toyota's old logo look like? Anybody have any pics? It must've been pretty forgettable. Nissan still uses the old Datsun "hamburger." Honda's logo has been pretty consistant. Mazda had a pretty ugly logo until they changed it about 10 - 15 years ago.
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Re: [lemko] by ateixeira
Jan 14, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 14, 2009 10:19 am)

Why/how is it any different than Honda's H or Mazda's M?
 
I dunno, just asking.
 
To me it's a just a fairly generic letter. Honda's H is not skewed so they probably did that just to avoid litigation.
 
I don't see that as cheap, though.
 
Now *this* BYD logo screams cheap:
 
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Re: [lemko] by fintail
Jan 14, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 14, 2009 10:27 am)

In the 80s Toyota had one that looked like a ship or a Viking boat or something, I remember it vaguely. They must have had something built around a T at some time, too.

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