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#1652 of 4250 Re: [backy] by ateixeira Jan 14, 2009 (9:20 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 9:18 am) Me too. They were $4995 new, remember that?   Of course all you had to do was wait 2 years, they were worth $2000, but they already had rust on them.   To be fair, what did people expect for $4995? You had to spend $10-11 grand, at least, to get even a good compact car.   Nothing at all in common with Hyundai's lineup today, IMHO. Except maybe the low price (even then, not as low as the Excel). Replies to this message: backy (Jan 14, 2009 9:24 am) ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:31 am)
#1653 of 4250 Re: [fintail] by backy Jan 14, 2009 (9:21 am)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 8:19 am) Yes, one who lumps the ES in with the Genesis in some bizarre comparison certainly has a right to lecture others about logic and consistency...   Since you were the one who brought the Lexus ES into this thread, you are saying then that gives you the right to lecture us about logic and consistency? Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 10:56 am) backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:21 am) fintail (Jan 14, 2009 2:12 pm)
#1654 of 4250 Re: [ateixeira] by backy Jan 14, 2009 (9:24 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:20 am) Actually, in today's dollars, some of Hyundai's cars, specifically the Accent, are about the same price as the Excel. Pretty amazing when you compare what you could get in 1986 to what you can get today for basically the same bucks. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 9:31 am)
#1655 of 4250 Re: [backy] by ateixeira Jan 14, 2009 (9:31 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 9:24 am) Accent exists just so they can say they have the lowest priced car.   It's existence is definitely an obstacle for the Genesis' image.   But so is the A-class for any AMG or S-class.
#1656 of 4250 Re: [backy] by lemko Jan 14, 2009 (10:19 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 8:45 pm) Cheap chromed plastic or not, it still looks a billion times better than the "swoopy H." Kia made the same mistake with the Amanti. It looks nice until you see the Kia oval which simply screams "CHEAP!!!" Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jan 14, 2009 10:49 am)
#1657 of 4250 Re: First time poster here [backy] by lemko Jan 14, 2009 (10:22 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 8:21 am) Lots of poseurs out there. They'd rather have a Mercedes or a Lexus, etc. but they are too poor or cheap to buy one. Replies to this message: backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:18 am) Jozz (Jan 14, 2009 1:03 pm) fintail (Jan 14, 2009 2:08 pm)
#1659 of 4250 Re: [fintail] by bobad Jan 14, 2009 (10:26 am)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 8:23 am) Good try, but if you check my posts, I'm the guy who refuses to bow to any badge. According to your posts, you are the guy who has a fixation on badges. How bizarre.   Owners of other luxury cars are liking the Genesis, saying it stacks up well with other luxury cars they have owned. That's the ultimate testimonial, because there is probably little bias. How can you argue with that?   Why is it I don't remember ever seeing a badge on the Genesis? Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 10:54 am)
#1660 of 4250 Re: [backy] by lemko Jan 14, 2009 (10:27 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 14, 2009 8:27 am) What did Toyota's old logo look like? Anybody have any pics? It must've been pretty forgettable. Nissan still uses the old Datsun "hamburger." Honda's logo has been pretty consistant. Mazda had a pretty ugly logo until they changed it about 10 - 15 years ago. Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 10:51 am) backy (Jan 14, 2009 11:16 am) fintail (Jan 14, 2009 2:07 pm) and 1 more...
#1661 of 4250 Re: [lemko] by ateixeira Jan 14, 2009 (10:49 am)
Replying to: lemko (Jan 14, 2009 10:19 am) Why/how is it any different than Honda's H or Mazda's M?   I dunno, just asking.   To me it's a just a fairly generic letter. Honda's H is not skewed so they probably did that just to avoid litigation.   I don't see that as cheap, though.   Now *this* BYD logo screams cheap:

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