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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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Re: [fintail] by backy
Jan 13, 2009 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 6:32 pm)

The emblems of the big 2.5 also hearken back to a richer time,...
 
Unfortunately, that "richer" time is at least two generations ago. About the only buyers who still remember that "richer" time are... Buick buyers! Oh wait, they have a lame badge.
 
Bottom line: if there was ANY chance changing the swoopy H would significantly increase Hyundai's sales, Hyundai would have taken that step long ago, in a heartbeat. It's just not that easy.
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Re: [backy] by cviz821
Jan 13, 2009 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 7:15 pm)

if you don't like the swoopy H you can change the badging like some of us Genesis Owner's have:
 

 

 
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Re: [backy] by fintail
Jan 13, 2009 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 7:15 pm)

Yes, my bad, Hyundai is acting with perfect planning and logic, as always. How dare I question their strategy
 
It might be more about longterm image than short term sales. As the price goes up, image counts for something.
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Re: [cviz821] by fintail
Jan 13, 2009 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: cviz821 (Jan 13, 2009 8:28 pm)

Not bad. Is there one for the steering wheel, too?
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Re: [fintail] by bobad
Jan 13, 2009 (8:43 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 2:17 pm)

I just don't get your objections to the Hyundai badge, and I think your take on it is over the top-- and backwards.
 
Which comes first, the car or the badge? Every famous badge I know of was made famous by the cars wearing it, not the other way around. Hyundai is attempting to do the same thing. Why is it OK for the rest of the luxury car manufacturers to make their badge famous and recognizable by building great cars, but not Hyundai?
 
I think Hyundai has thought about spinning off an upscale division, but decided to work hard and make their current brand acceptable to upscale, quality conscious buyers. I think they have made great strides in the past 3-4 years. They have come from an unpronounceable name with a reputation for making econo-boxes, to a household name with a growing reputation for quality and reliability.
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Re: [fintail] by backy
Jan 13, 2009 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 8:33 pm)

You can question anything you want. You don't even have to be logical or consistent in how you go about it. That's what makes America great.
 
That Genesis badge on the trunk lid looks cheap to me, like it's made of chromed plastic. But another great thing about America is that folks can stick anything they want on their cars. That badge probably upped the resale value of the car by, what would you estimate, maybe 10%? Or maybe not.
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Re: First time poster here [fintail] by joshuag
Jan 14, 2009 (3:57 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 12:57 pm)

Everyone is talking about the swoopy H, and I went and looked at a Genesis and I didn't notice if it even had a H on the car, or a Hyundai badging anywhere on the car. But, I don't think that is going to matter because people are going to find out what it is anyway. And when they find out, truly I don't think it is going to matter because it is really a beautiful car for the money.
 
As for the question as to whether there is room for Hyundai in the luxury car segment. The answer is I dont think so right now. I think they need a little more time in the market building high quality beautiful cars for a great price. They need to be building these cars long enough that when people here the word Hyundai they don't think of a rusty old Excel.
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Naysayers by ateixeira
Jan 14, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Remember, Lexus had a lot of naysayers in 1990 as well.
 
I'm not saying Gensis is the same as the 1990 LS400, but it's definitely a step in the direction they want to be heading in.
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Re: [backy] by fintail
Jan 14, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 8:45 pm)

Yes, one who lumps the ES in with the Genesis in some bizarre comparison certainly has a right to lecture others about logic and consistency...
 
I forgot, according to the Hyundai fanboys here, the swoopy H can do no wrong, everything is done with logic and reason, the pink of perfection in the automotive realm, and to question the actions of these automotive gods is akin to spitting on the pope
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Re: First time poster here [joshuag] by backy
Jan 14, 2009 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: joshuag (Jan 14, 2009 3:57 am)

If there is no room for Hyundai in the luxury car segment, how do you explain that the Genesis sedan is already outselling some of its more established competitors after being on the market for only about 6 months?

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