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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
3976 messages, Last post on Nov 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 13, 2009 10:49 am) Less than 20 years ago you could still get a cloth interior manual transmission 6cyl S-class. |
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 11:06 am) |
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Perhaps, but this is largely an American sentiment, i.e. that the market should be segmented. Few people realize that companies like MB and Audi also compete in the low end market. MB's A and B-class, Audi A2-A3, and BMW's own 1-series to name a few. Another side, Toyota is actually also a luxury brand in Asia. Crown series is one of their legendary models. Nissan President is another (they just renamed it to Infiniti Q in US). |
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 11:06 am) Do you also see a $35k Avalon or Maxima and think of the 1969 Corolla or 1974 B210? I would guess not. Toyota and Nissan have come a long way since those early tin boxes. And Hyundai has come a long way from the Excel--although my sister had a 1990 Excel and it proved to be one tough little car and not a bad ride for the money.
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Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 12:21 pm) I also see a Lexus ES and I see a tarted up Supercamry  Swoopy H is still a liability, not a positive.
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 11:06 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 12:25 pm) Your Lexus ES comment is interesting though. What you seem to be saying is, a new badge (ala Lexus) won't in itself give the Genesis a luxury image. It's all about the car behind the badge. You don't respect a Lexus ES because it has that magical badge, so why should someone respect a Genesis more if it had a different badge? At least overpricing isn't the issue with the Genesis--or at least not to the degree of the Avalon and Maxima.
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Replying to: fezo (Jan 13, 2009 12:32 pm) |
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Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2009 12:32 pm) Your incessant picking with anyone who gives criticism to the swoopy H is interesting though  . ES vs Camry is not in any way applicable to the Genesis. The ES is essentially a rebodied Camry with a few more creature comforts and a large profit margin. The Genesis is not a rebodied Sonata and shares little to nothing with it. Genesis is the GS in the Toyolex heirarchy, not the ES. The Genesis is more respectable simply because it is not a reskin made to fool social climbing middle aged women.
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 12:57 pm) But realize just because you won't treat the Genesis seriously because it has that "swoopy H" on it, doesn't mean others won't disagree. No need to slam them because they don't agree with you, now is there? Some of us (like the thousands who are driving a Genesis now) buy a car because we like the car, not because of the $2.98 badge on the trunk lid. |
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