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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

4242 messages,  Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 2:51 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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by m4d_cow
Jan 12, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Saab 9-5 Luxury Car????
 
Well personally I'd categorize the 9-5 in either near luxo or entry level luxury class, along with some Volvo and Acura models.
 
The 9-3 is a beaut imo, while the 9-2x and 9-7x are ironic examples of blatant cloning that wear finer outfits than their respective originals Impreza and Trailblazer.
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Re: First time poster here [m4d_cow] by fintail
Jan 12, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 12, 2009 11:39 am)

Genesis isn't a bad name in and of itself...IMO more deserving to be a marque than a model, even if it is just a rebadge from the parent company. The swoopy H has no place on a car in that part of the market.
 
Infiniti, Acura, and especially Lexus have proven the American market isn't put off by this. I think the new Hyundai brand would work just as well.
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Re: car of the year [backy] by joe97
Jan 12, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 12, 2009 9:44 am)

A a few other honors from Canadian publications - don't forget our neighbor up north
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by m4d_cow
Jan 12, 2009 (11:21 pm)
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Still, noone can deny the brand Genesis sounds much catchier than Equus right?
 
Along with Infiniti, Acura and Lexus, the Genesis sounds just as majestic. Equus.sp otoh....uhh.... a horse?......
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by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (7:33 am)
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On a side note, the one thing that keep me cold on Hyundai is the hopelessly bland looks on all their models. Sure the Genesis is an improvement (save for the dumb Klingon forehead grille), but I'm still not impressed (the interior is pretty good though).
The Gen coupe is the first Hyundai ever I dare call decent looking without being too bland.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by fintail
Jan 13, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 13, 2009 7:33 am)

Hey, at least it doesn't look like a Kia Amanti....a BMW derivative is downright progressive compared to that atrocious thing. I don't think anyone buys cars from that continent for styling anyway, as few of them have any of it of merit.
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Re: First time poster here [fintail] by ateixeira
Jan 13, 2009 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 12, 2009 12:44 pm)

The swoopy H has no place on a car in that part of the market
 
Perhaps, but this is largely an American sentiment, i.e. that the market should be segmented. Chevy is mainstream, Buick is upscale, Cadillac is luxury.
 
Look at how Mercedes operates in Europe. You can get this:
 

 
or this:
 

 
from the same brand.
 
What you mentioned is probably why we don't see the entry level Benzes in the USA.
 
Even the S class comes in a V6 version - something we never would see here.
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Re: First time poster here [ateixeira] by fintail
Jan 13, 2009 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 13, 2009 10:49 am)

And the American market will make or break the Genesis. I can't see it selling at all in Europe, where Lexus has barely made a dent after all these years. I am sure it is a hit in Seoul, maybe the Chinese will buy a few, it could sell in Oceania...but where else? The H appears very downmarket, I see it and I think of a 1994 Excel. Maybe Hyundai needs a new emblem for its new development.
 
Less than 20 years ago you could still get a cloth interior manual transmission 6cyl S-class.
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Re: First time poster here [fintail] by ateixeira
Jan 13, 2009 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 13, 2009 11:06 am)

I think China is a big potential market. If they like their big Buicks, here's a direct competitor.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Perhaps, but this is largely an American sentiment, i.e. that the market should be segmented.
 
Few people realize that companies like MB and Audi also compete in the low end market. MB's A and B-class, Audi A2-A3, and BMW's own 1-series to name a few.
Another side, Toyota is actually also a luxury brand in Asia. Crown series is one of their legendary models. Nissan President is another (they just renamed it to Infiniti Q in US).

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