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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4250 messages, Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 6:46 AM
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 31, 2008 8:22 am) It doesn't matter what you or I think. What matters most is what the Genesis owners think, especially those who have previously owned so called luxury brands. If they say they're luxury cars, they are. It would be interesting to know the answer. I honestly don't know. Then you come back & say: Genesis owners do not get to decide if their car is a success. They do get to decide if they think it measures up as a luxury car. If it doesn't matter what you or I think, and Genesis owners don't get to decide if it's a success, then who gets to decide? Sales do not determine the quality and engineering of a luxury car. Only customer satisfaction can determine that. In fact, some of the finest luxury cars have the lowest sales figures in the market) I never said anything about sales determining the quality & engineering of a luxury car. Sales affect profitability and I'm pretty sure they want the Genesis to increase market share. It does the company no good to have a great car that no one buys. That's not Hyundai's plan for this car.
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Replying to: trimaster (Jan 03, 2009 9:32 pm) I just didn't want success (as in sales figures) and quality/engineering that define a luxury car to get confused. A luxury car of the highest order could be a miserable failure, and a pure fraud could be a great sales success. To clarify further, I think luxury car drivers are better qualified to judge whether a car is a luxury car or not. I owned one luxury car years ago, so I'm not a great judge myself. I would like to hear from Genesis owners that have owned luxury brands previous or current to the Genesis, if there are any out there yet. |
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Replying to: bobad (Jan 05, 2009 6:20 am) No prob! I just didn't want success (as in sales figures) and quality/engineering that define a luxury car to get confused. A luxury car of the highest order could be a miserable failure, and a pure fraud could be a great sales success. I understand what you're saying. I don't see many of them here in Florida, but that doesn't mean it's not a nicely made car. You have to give credit where it's due. I think the timing couldn't have been worse for this car, seeing how we're in a recession that appears to have no end in sight. Buying a new car is the last thing on a lot of people's minds right now. Hopefully they won't discontinue the car because of poor sales (in the automotive industryin general.) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2008 6:27 pm) 
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...can I bring my Genesis back to the dealer?
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 10, 2009 12:07 pm) 
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Replying to: bobad (Jan 05, 2009 6:20 am) In a recent speech, one of the Hyundai marketing execs said 40% of Genesis buyers traded in luxury cars...so there are quite a few out there. Personally, I have been leasing luxuy cars since 1990 starting with a Lexus LS, followed by an Infiniti Q45, Infiniti Q45, Jaguar XJ8, Saab 9-5, Saab 9-5 and as of last month a Genesis. IMO the Genesis is at least as good as any of those in terms of styling, quality of fit and finish and performance.
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Replying to: sandy25 (Jan 10, 2009 4:53 pm)
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50 journalists pick the Hyundai Genesis as the Car of the Year. Hyundai Genesis and Ford F-150 Win North American Car, Truck of the Year Awards (AutoObserver) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 11, 2009 3:59 pm) I saw in another article not only it was the first S. Korean model to take the honor, but this was also the first luxury model to take the award. |
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