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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4250 messages, Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 6:46 AM
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 29, 2008 6:32 pm) Here's a blurb: "the junior of two planned Amati sedans came to life as the midsize entry-luxury Mazda Millenia " Mazda Millenia Review |
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 5:43 pm) Sales comparison with some compeititors: August - November (US) M: 1,221 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 = 4,677 Genesis: 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 = 4,478 GS*: 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 = 4,203 RL: 316 | 259 | 272 | 234 = 1,081 *Includes hybrid model
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 29, 2008 7:24 pm) They still make the RL and the GS? 
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 8:56 am) Does a luxury car have to be a foreign car?? How about a nice Cadillac STS or STS-V for $47,000 to $84,000?!? 'Cadillac' used to be the synonym for 'luxury'!! You don't see an owner taking the 'Wreath & Crest' off his Caddy so that no one will know what it is!!!!
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Replying to: fourteen14 (Dec 30, 2008 12:48 pm) |
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Replying to: fourteen14 (Dec 30, 2008 12:48 pm) Is that sarcasm, or are you for real? 
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 30, 2008 4:52 pm) My remark comes from a conversation that I had with a veteran Acura salesman a few years ago when the fresh new generation TL was in the showroom competing against the older generation RL that year. The TL was clearly superior in nearly all areas, yet the RL was priced about $10,000 more! I asked the guy why anyone would pay so much more money for an inferior model. He claimed that sales of the RL were still quite good, because customers, who were used to MB, BMW, and Cadillac prices, considered the RL a real bargain, but viewed the TL as too plebian in spite of it’s virtues. |
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Replying to: trimaster (Dec 29, 2008 11:57 am) Of course it matters to Genesis owners the most. They are the one's who will decide if the car is a success or not. It all comes down to units sold, not positive posts on a message board by non-owners. But the original post asked for everyone's opinion and I gave mine. My question is a new one, and has nothing to do with the original question. I'm simply asking what luxury car owners think of their Genesis. I think it's a fair and meaningful question. Genesis owners do not get to decide if their car is a success. They do get to decide if they think it measures up as a luxury car. Sales do not determine the quality and engineering of a luxury car. Only customer satisfaction can determine that. In fact, some of the finest luxury cars have the lowest sales figures in the market)
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Hyundai's 2010 Genesis Commercials Will Get Super Bowl Watchers' Attention (Inside Line) 
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 31, 2008 8:41 am) |
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