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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
3963 messages, Last post on Nov 06, 2009 at 9:35 AM
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 26, 2008 11:07 am) By any chance, are you related to Emily Litella? 
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 26, 2008 6:42 am) 
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 25, 2008 9:10 am) The Azera, Genesis, Entourage and Vera Cruz have all been dissed in Car and Driver comparison tests for sub-par, or even inadequate, suspension performance compared to the competition. None of the former are marketed as performance cars, so maybe they can get away with it. If, however, it's not sorted out in the upcoming Genesis Coupe, they could have a tough time competing against V8 Mustangs with only a V6 and a suspension that's not topnotch.
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Replying to: cobrazera (Dec 27, 2008 4:46 am) About the "suspension problems". I haven't experienced them, but it's possible. Even the most brilliant engineers make mistakes. If you aren't making a few mistakes, you aren't learning. If you aren't learning, you can never achieve excellence. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2007 4:18 pm) If someone says "I bought a Mercedes, BMW, Lexus," etc, people will more likely associate that with a luxury car purchase, regardless of the model. If someone says "I bought a Hyundai," that doesn't say luxury. It says many things, but luxury isn't 1 of them. The Genesis is a nice car, but for Hyundai to be considered a luxury car maker I think they need several more models to choose from that are just as good as the Genesis.
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Replying to: trimaster (Dec 27, 2008 8:46 pm) I would agree. But, they are starting as Toyota did with the Lexus. When I bought my LS 400 in 1990, there were two models to choose from, the LS sedan and the SC sport coupe. Of course, Lexus also offered the dealer experience of separate facilities.
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Replying to: sandy25 (Dec 28, 2008 10:35 am) I do agree, however, with the assessment Hyundai itself is not a luxury brand, but the Genesis sedan is a luxury model in its own right.
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Replying to: trimaster (Dec 27, 2008 8:46 pm) What matters most is what the Genesis owners think, especially those who have previously owned so called luxury brands. If they say they're luxury cars, they are. It would be interesting to know the answer. I honestly don't know.
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 28, 2008 2:41 pm) started with LS and ES when the nameplate started." You are correct Joe. The first SC models were the 1992 models, which of course were available in 1991 as a 1992 model. The first LS400s were 1990s, available early in 1989. In the coupes or SCs, there were two models, the SC300 3 Liter six cylinder and the the SC400 4 L V8. Easily spotted by the rear spoiler. The SC 300 does not come standard with a spoiler while all SC 400s have one as standard equipment. Basically the four door LS 400 but in a coupe body. One way to get the six cylinder motor in a true luxury car. However, there were no sixes for the LS four door sedan. The 1990 Lexus ES250 was simply a Camry re badged as a Lexus but of course trimmed to a higher luxury level. If I recall correctly, those were priced some $10K higher than the top-of-the-line Camrys.
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Replying to: donna388 (Dec 29, 2008 10:12 am) The ES300 came out a couple of years later and was a much better vehicle. Around the same time the up-sized Camry came out as well. |
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