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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

4250 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 6:46 AM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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Re: Hyundai Developing Their Own 6 and 8 Speed Automatics [bobad] by fintail
Dec 25, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 25, 2008 9:10 am)

With all due respect to Hyundai, "destiny" is a dangerous ideal...
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by bobad
Dec 26, 2008 (6:42 am)
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With all due respect to Hyundai, "destiny" is a dangerous ideal...
 
It wasn't a dangerous ideal for Toyota and Honda.
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Hyundai for sale by steve_ HOST
Dec 26, 2008 (8:36 am)
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"In an effort to fight of the financial squeeze gripping the company, Hyundai will be looking for a new majority share owner, as they put the company up for sale."
 
Hyundai for sale
 
No, there are no plans to rename this discussion to "Is There Room for Hyundai?"
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Re: Hyundai for sale [steve_] by tenpin288
Dec 26, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 26, 2008 8:36 am)

Just to set the record straight (which the StraightLine article doesn't unless you read the comments), the Hyundai mentioned is NOT the Hyundai Motor Corporation. It is a South Korean shipping/trading concern. http://www.hyundaicorp.com/eng/ Here is a link to the global Hyundai Motor Corp. http://worldwide.hyundai-motor.com/. Two different companies.
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Re: Hyundai for sale [tenpin288] by steve_ HOST
Dec 26, 2008 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Dec 26, 2008 10:24 am)

I thought that was addressed in the comments but now the entire post has been pulled.
 
So ... never mind?
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Re: Hyundai for sale [steve_] by tenpin288
Dec 26, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 26, 2008 11:07 am)

So ... never mind?
 
By any chance, are you related to Emily Litella?
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Re: [bobad] by fintail
Dec 26, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 26, 2008 6:42 am)

I don't recall Toyonda fanboys preaching "destiny"...
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Re: Hyundai Developing Their Own 6 and 8 Speed Automatics [bobad] by cobrazera
Dec 27, 2008 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 25, 2008 9:10 am)

Hyundai's " strong in-house engineering capabilities " would appear to be lacking in the suspension department.
The Azera, Genesis, Entourage and Vera Cruz have all been dissed in Car and Driver comparison tests for sub-par, or even inadequate, suspension performance compared to the competition.
None of the former are marketed as performance cars, so maybe they can get away with it. If, however, it's not sorted out in the upcoming Genesis Coupe, they could have a tough time competing against V8 Mustangs with only a V6 and a suspension that's not topnotch.
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Re: Hyundai Developing Their Own 6 and 8 Speed Automatics [cobrazera] by bobad
Dec 27, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: cobrazera (Dec 27, 2008 4:46 am)

Their engines are well engineered, and real gems. I have no reason to doubt their transmissions will be fine as well. I don't think they will stop until they perfect them.
 
About the "suspension problems". I haven't experienced them, but it's possible. Even the most brilliant engineers make mistakes. If you aren't making a few mistakes, you aren't learning. If you aren't learning, you can never achieve excellence.
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [steve_] by trimaster
Dec 27, 2008 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2007 4:18 pm)

The Genesis is a very nice car, but I don't consider Hyundai a luxury car maker. I see them as an inexpensive car company that created one nice luxury car.
 
If someone says "I bought a Mercedes, BMW, Lexus," etc, people will more likely associate that with a luxury car purchase, regardless of the model.
 
If someone says "I bought a Hyundai," that doesn't say luxury. It says many things, but luxury isn't 1 of them.
 
The Genesis is a nice car, but for Hyundai to be considered a luxury car maker I think they need several more models to choose from that are just as good as the Genesis.

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