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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Equus, Hyundai Genesis, Car Comparisons


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Re: 2 Hyundai opponents contradict each other [fezo] by steve_ HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:33 pm)

He went luxury on us and mostly hangs out in the Acura boards it seems.
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Re: 2 Hyundai opponents contradict each other [steve_] by fezo
Dec 02, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:36 pm)

Ah! You'd think he'd have to go with a more respectable handle with the Acura folks....
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Re: 2 Hyundai opponents contradict each other [ateixeira] by bobad
Dec 03, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 02, 2008 12:21 pm)

Good questions indeed!
 
I have to admit I'm conflicted about what a luxury car is.
 
A. To some, it's a car that most people can't afford.
B. To some, it's a car that has top of the line quality, comfort, power, and features
C. To some, it's a car with an exclusive luxury badge regardless of price or quality.
 
I go mostly with "B", but I can understand "A". "C" is out of the question for me, as it reflects worship of a meaningless symbol.
 
My guess is that you could take a V8 Genesis, put BMW grill and badges inside and out, and invite a bunch of luxury car aficionados to private test drives. I bet most would readily accept it as a luxury car.
 
If the Genesis is not accepted as a luxury car, so what? If it has all the quality and comfort of the anointed luxury cars, why would most people even care?
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Re: 2 Hyundai opponents contradict each other [fezo] by ateixeira
Dec 04, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:44 pm)

Maybe he upgraded his handle to "Nice Furry Animal" instead. Say hi if you "see" him.
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Re: 2 Hyundai opponents contradict each other [bobad] by ateixeira
Dec 04, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 03, 2008 7:26 am)

A means exclusivity, and that's the one I agre with most, because it's a moving target.
 
I mean, you can get GPS Navigation in a Fit nowadays, and that used to be considered a luxury. $99 buys you a portable so now everyone's got one.
 
Quality? Nah, a cheap Yaris has great quality.
 
Comfort? Maybe...thing is, BMWs ride hard, my Sienna rides more comfortably than any BMW I've been in the past couple of years. Plus I think "Buick" when I read that word, not necessarily BMW or Mercedes.
 
Power? Again a maybe, as my minivan has 266hp. Insane.
 
Features? Moving target, as mentioned above.
 
Badge? Tough one. This is the precise debate in this thread. Some people are just badge snobs, so the VW Phaeton, which had characteristics A and B above, did not have C, and thus failed in our (shallow?) market.
 
I also agree with your "so what" comment, then again I've never owned a luxury car.
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Hyundai Developing Their Own 6 and 8 Speed Automatics by bobad
Dec 25, 2008 (9:10 am)
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/23/hyundai...peed-automatic/
 
Advanced, light, compact, and their very own.
 
It shows Hyundai has strong in-house engineering capabilities and determination. Not many manufacturers worldwide have developed their own 6 or 8 speeds. Most outsource them or have joint development programs with other manufacturers.
 
Hyundai is doing everything first class, setting high goals, and destined to move up on the pecking order.
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bobad... by iluvmysephia1
Dec 25, 2008 (9:20 am)
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truedat, what you said above.
 
And Hyundai and Kia are very hard workers, they will keep working until they move up higher on the worldwide pecking order. The Long-Haul Warranty was an ingenious idea of theirs.
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Re: Hyundai Developing Their Own 6 and 8 Speed Automatics [bobad] by fintail
Dec 25, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: bobad (Dec 25, 2008 9:10 am)

With all due respect to Hyundai, "destiny" is a dangerous ideal...
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by bobad
Dec 26, 2008 (6:42 am)
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With all due respect to Hyundai, "destiny" is a dangerous ideal...
 
It wasn't a dangerous ideal for Toyota and Honda.
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Hyundai for sale by steve_ HOST
Dec 26, 2008 (8:36 am)
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"In an effort to fight of the financial squeeze gripping the company, Hyundai will be looking for a new majority share owner, as they put the company up for sale."
 
Hyundai for sale
 
No, there are no plans to rename this discussion to "Is There Room for Hyundai?"

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