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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
3972 messages, Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 8:29 AM
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm) 
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Replying to: bashogrebash (Nov 26, 2008 12:54 pm) Sir, if I read your post right you LEASED a luxury car. Sorry, you are not a true luxury buyer. I don't consider those who lease a 3-series like for $299/month true luxury buyers. |
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Replying to: bashogrebash (Nov 26, 2008 12:56 pm) First of all, I said Mont Blanc, not Montblanc. On that note: http://www.everywine.co.uk/every-wine/online/mont-blanc-wine So uh... you were saying? |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 11:13 pm) Personally, it isn't all that important if my service department luxuriates me. I'm hardly ever there. I'm in my car most every day, so that's what matters. What I want from a service department is reliable, honest, and good quality service. I'm probably there for only an hour a year. So, yes, if Hyundai offers a product comparable to one costing thousands more, I'd give them a shot, especially if longer term reviews of the new Genesis are positive. If I were to be bothered by the appearance and amenities of the local dealer's service department, then I'd give my daughter $20 to take it to service for me. She'd be thrilled and I'd be sitting on a better quality leather sofa right in the comfort of my own living room. A couple of years ago, I loathed the thought of buying a Hyundai, but no longer. They've come a long, long way imo. Unfortunately, the closest Hyundai dealer doesn't have my trust in the quality, reliable service arena. However, they've been sold to the biggest local dealer which is expanding to a second location. I'll keep my ears and eyes open as to how the new owner does. If all checks out, I'll consider the Genesis a lot more. And, by the way, I've heard quite a few complaints about BMW and Lexus dealers in my area as well over the years. I'd wager that overall service at more mainstream luxury dealers might well be better than the typical Hyundai dealer, but there are exceptions both ways.
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Replying to: keitha3 (Nov 27, 2008 12:16 am) One blind tasting group preferred some cheap bottle of wine until the labels were disclosed. Then they all switched over to the Dom Perignon, even though they had just rated it at the bottom of the wine flight they had just sampled. It'd be fun to strip the badges off a Genesis and a few luxury marques and have a focus group rate them on luxury.
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Replying to: keitha3 (Nov 27, 2008 12:16 am) I didn't. I just want to provide a different opinion from a difference perspective (I personally own a luxury brand vehicle and most of my friends are luxury brand vehicle owners range from Porsche to Acura) to paint a complete picture of the topic. Which is, may I repeat, Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? I just don't think all arguments will be heard if there are only current Hyundai owners/supporters discussing about whether or not Hyundai can be competitive in the luxury market. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 27, 2008 7:33 am) In my opinion the Genesis is fully capable to hang with its competitors like the GS, 5er and E-class. It is the "total luxury ownership experience" that's lacking for it to compete in the luxury market (which is the topic of this thread). If the topic is something like: For the car only, is the Genesis good enough to compete with the GS, 5er and E then you won't get an argument from me. So based on that, your wine-tasting example is totally irrelevant to the topic.
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umm...the topic of this thread is "Is there Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?" To me, that means that this topic is about the cars involved. I can answer simply the question of what this thread is about. Yes, there is room in the luxury market for Hyundai, and they've proved it by producing a very competent RWD large, luxo sedan called the Genesis. Period. You seem to want to follow your own wild hair off in to LA-LA land and talk about the entire experience, including the dealership experience. BTW, are you from L.A.?
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 27, 2008 11:07 am) And there are plenty of rich people who want good stuff but just want to live in their dungarees and aren't especially interested in the trappings associated with owning their Bentley or whatever. The millionaire next door if you will (the one I know wears a Rolex but drives XC90s). Other folks want to pour over every Robb Report and that's fine too. And for those folks, the Hyundai experience isn't going to satisfy them. Heh, I just went back to Post #1 and realized that I started this discussion. So I think I get dibs on defining just what we are talking about. 
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