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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4214 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm) How much are they worth to you? $5000? $10,000? More? |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 10:04 am) How are you so sure what a luxury buyer is? I own a Lexus and I'm purchasing a Genesis. I can certainly tell you that I have gotten miserable treatment at Lexus, BMW et al.... It has nothing to do with the make... You wouldn't believe the garbage I had to put up with when I leased the Lexus... Does the local Hyundai dealer subject me to the same dealer antics? SURE! but I'm paying thousands less... What do you have to say to that? I'm a "luxury" buyer and I consider the Genesis a luxury car.... |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm) 
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Replying to: bashogrebash (Nov 26, 2008 12:54 pm) Sir, if I read your post right you LEASED a luxury car. Sorry, you are not a true luxury buyer. I don't consider those who lease a 3-series like for $299/month true luxury buyers. |
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Replying to: bashogrebash (Nov 26, 2008 12:56 pm) First of all, I said Mont Blanc, not Montblanc. On that note: http://www.everywine.co.uk/every-wine/online/mont-blanc-wine So uh... you were saying? |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 11:13 pm) Personally, it isn't all that important if my service department luxuriates me. I'm hardly ever there. I'm in my car most every day, so that's what matters. What I want from a service department is reliable, honest, and good quality service. I'm probably there for only an hour a year. So, yes, if Hyundai offers a product comparable to one costing thousands more, I'd give them a shot, especially if longer term reviews of the new Genesis are positive. If I were to be bothered by the appearance and amenities of the local dealer's service department, then I'd give my daughter $20 to take it to service for me. She'd be thrilled and I'd be sitting on a better quality leather sofa right in the comfort of my own living room. A couple of years ago, I loathed the thought of buying a Hyundai, but no longer. They've come a long, long way imo. Unfortunately, the closest Hyundai dealer doesn't have my trust in the quality, reliable service arena. However, they've been sold to the biggest local dealer which is expanding to a second location. I'll keep my ears and eyes open as to how the new owner does. If all checks out, I'll consider the Genesis a lot more. And, by the way, I've heard quite a few complaints about BMW and Lexus dealers in my area as well over the years. I'd wager that overall service at more mainstream luxury dealers might well be better than the typical Hyundai dealer, but there are exceptions both ways.
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Replying to: keitha3 (Nov 27, 2008 12:16 am) One blind tasting group preferred some cheap bottle of wine until the labels were disclosed. Then they all switched over to the Dom Perignon, even though they had just rated it at the bottom of the wine flight they had just sampled. It'd be fun to strip the badges off a Genesis and a few luxury marques and have a focus group rate them on luxury.
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Replying to: keitha3 (Nov 27, 2008 12:16 am) I didn't. I just want to provide a different opinion from a difference perspective (I personally own a luxury brand vehicle and most of my friends are luxury brand vehicle owners range from Porsche to Acura) to paint a complete picture of the topic. Which is, may I repeat, Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? I just don't think all arguments will be heard if there are only current Hyundai owners/supporters discussing about whether or not Hyundai can be competitive in the luxury market. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 27, 2008 7:33 am) In my opinion the Genesis is fully capable to hang with its competitors like the GS, 5er and E-class. It is the "total luxury ownership experience" that's lacking for it to compete in the luxury market (which is the topic of this thread). If the topic is something like: For the car only, is the Genesis good enough to compete with the GS, 5er and E then you won't get an argument from me. So based on that, your wine-tasting example is totally irrelevant to the topic.
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