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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4214 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 8:45 am) The Hyundai dealer I bought 2 cars from used to have round-trip shuttle service, which was nice because they would take me downtown to my office and pick me up again in the afternoon. I'd save parking fees. Then they dropped that service, and also their competence declined, so I said good-bye in favor of a dealership closer to home. |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 24, 2008 12:38 pm) Then please tell me what market the Genesis is in? And just because YOU want to spend lots of money to be pampered like a spoiled child doesn't mean everyone does. I rather pocket the money and skip whatever it is Lexus does to or for you.
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According to Edmund's website (in the future models section), the Santa Fe is due for a "refresh" for 2010. I am thinking of buying a '09 in the spring, but I wonder if anyone has any info on this refresh (ie. specific changes) and/or if I should wait till the fall and get a new 2010? I'd hate to buy an '09 then a few months later see some further improvements on styling, etc on the '10. Thanks for your replies! mdutch
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Replying to: bobad (Nov 26, 2008 9:39 am) Large sedan market like the Buick Lucerne, Pontiac G8, Toyota Avalon, Nissan Maxima, Chrysler 300C and even Hyundai's own Azera. Oh and by the way don't give me that FWD vs. RWD lecture because simply the general buying public don't really care about it. This a Hyundai, a large car and more luxurious than its competitors, that's all. Can the Genesis hang with its luxury competitors like the 5er, E and GS purely based on the car itself? I would think so (I test drove one before). However, would it be a player in the luxury market? Not a chance if it carries the Hyundai badge. I rather pocket the money and skip whatever it is Lexus does to or for you. Please refer to my previous post: Post 1517 YOU, sir, does not represent the luxury buyers and you know what, there are A LOT of them out there besides me who want the total luxury ownership experience. Those people, sir, have different priorities when it comes to buying a luxury car and they, sir, ARE THE CORE LUXURY MARKET.
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 10:04 am) Is it a fancy showroom with classical music. Concierge service? Free maintenance for four years? Leather lounge chairs in the service waiting room? Loaners or free car pickup and delivery? A hand wash with every service? |
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Replying to: mdutch (Nov 26, 2008 10:03 am) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 10:37 am) See my point? It's not the product I am trying to point out here, it's the experience. What's the "experience" then you asked... It's everything you mentioned: giant showroom inside a stand-alone maintenance facility, loaner car for any kind of service as long as one requests it, free espresso (the good kind) and snacks, leather sofa, free wash with every service PLUS: - Reserved parking lot at sporting venus: Philly's Wachovia Center , Atlanta's Turner Field and Miami's Office Depot Center - Receiving benefits when visiting the top resorts and hotels: Lexus Partnership Benefits - Exclusive clubs and associations: MB Community - Getting pampered at and treated like royalty at the maintenance facilities So what's the "experience"? It's almost a lifestyle in a certain extend. Now the question is: Will I get those with buying a Hyundai Genesis? |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm) And it still doesn't work as well as a $1.59 Bic Gel. A Visconti probably doesn't either.  The only time I stayed at a Ritz Carlton, I had a nice view of the Pentagon City shopping complex. Thanks for the expansion on the partner benefits. |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 12:00 pm) How much are they worth to you? $5000? $10,000? More? |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 26, 2008 10:04 am) How are you so sure what a luxury buyer is? I own a Lexus and I'm purchasing a Genesis. I can certainly tell you that I have gotten miserable treatment at Lexus, BMW et al.... It has nothing to do with the make... You wouldn't believe the garbage I had to put up with when I leased the Lexus... Does the local Hyundai dealer subject me to the same dealer antics? SURE! but I'm paying thousands less... What do you have to say to that? I'm a "luxury" buyer and I consider the Genesis a luxury car.... |
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