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Automotive News & Views Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?
4223 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 25, 2008 12:45 pm) So why don't you educate us exactly what these problems are, and how a luxury car is supposed to perform - in all categories, instead of side-stepping the responses posed to you (except for posting the same excerpt time after time)? I am guessing you're going to come across the issue with a similar Lexus (for example) if you insisit the Genesis has serious problems and can't perform like a luxury car. |
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Replying to: mattandi (Nov 25, 2008 9:16 am) Mattandi - I agree. Pricing for the Genesis starts around $30k. Edmunds.com lists 95 vehicles for sale in the $25-35k price range and another 40 vehicles in the $35-45k range (ok, a lot of these are "duplicates" in that they list both the 08 and 09 models of some vehicles but you get the idea). With the value and features the Genesis offers almost any of the above are good prospects and is where I suspect the sales are coming from. |
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Replying to: mattandi (Nov 25, 2008 7:01 am) IMO, if the car is reliable, one shouldn't worry too much about whether the dealer has latte or just plain joe - 'cause you won't be spending that much time there.
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 26, 2008 3:38 am) He also touted the car's reliability to me and I bit my tongue about seeing that the service department waiting room was full. Loaners are nice, and with them, you don't need lattes or loaners or net access.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 8:18 am) Loaners are nice if a car has to be kept overnight--which has been so rare for me over the past 10 years or so that it's again not a reason to buy or not buy a car from a particular dealer. But I like the idea they are available if I need them. More important to me is a dealer who will cheerfully give me a lift home or to the office if I request it. And the net access is nice for those 30 minute oil change appointments (the most frequent kind of service), since I can be productive while I wait (unless I decide to chew the fat with a sales rep about their new models...). I am sure that all the people waiting for their trusty Subarus were there for scheduled maintenance. 
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Replying to: backy (Nov 26, 2008 8:37 am)  And I bit my tongue about exploding AC compressors too, lol. I do my own oil changes, but yeah, net access for the quick stuff would be nice. Rides to the office are ok, but you have to get back to the dealer and sometimes that's a pain. If you pay a premium for a Genesis, how hard is it to give the owner an Accent for the day while the 15k service is being done?
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Replying to: cobrazera (Nov 26, 2008 3:38 am) Like I said, you don't understand why people buy luxury brands like BMW, MB and Lexus (not like there is anything wrong with that). People buying those cars because they want the totally luxury ownership experience, not just cars with luxury equipments. How many times do I have to express that...  I know some people will say that I don't give a darn because I just want a nice car with all the luxurious goodies like gadgets and leather seats. Well, if that's the case then good for you because you'll have more choices than the true luxury buyers. However since the title of this thread is, and I'll point out again: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? I felt it's important to let people know what does luxury market mean to the traditional luxury buyers, ie the MB, BMW and Lexus owners. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 8:45 am) The Hyundai dealer I bought 2 cars from used to have round-trip shuttle service, which was nice because they would take me downtown to my office and pick me up again in the afternoon. I'd save parking fees. Then they dropped that service, and also their competence declined, so I said good-bye in favor of a dealership closer to home. |
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 24, 2008 12:38 pm) Then please tell me what market the Genesis is in? And just because YOU want to spend lots of money to be pampered like a spoiled child doesn't mean everyone does. I rather pocket the money and skip whatever it is Lexus does to or for you.
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According to Edmund's website (in the future models section), the Santa Fe is due for a "refresh" for 2010. I am thinking of buying a '09 in the spring, but I wonder if anyone has any info on this refresh (ie. specific changes) and/or if I should wait till the fall and get a new 2010? I'd hate to buy an '09 then a few months later see some further improvements on styling, etc on the '10. Thanks for your replies! mdutch
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