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Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?

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Re: Top Speed? [joe97] by carolinabob
Sep 04, 2008 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Sep 03, 2008 7:19 pm)

See the test drive thread. Also, Oct 2008 Car and Driver and Automobilemag.com
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Re: Just got back from a 3 day weekend with an Azera rental. Review. [ksmigel] by jeffreid
Sep 04, 2008 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: ksmigel (Sep 02, 2008 6:59 pm)

No, I am not buying a G37. Or anything else right now. However, when I am in the market next that is a line that I would like to take a spin in to see what I think.
 
I would like to drive a G, and E-class, a Genesis, a XF, and a GS back to back to see what I REALLY think. Just because I work at a Hyundai dealership, that doesn't mean that my money isn't MY money............
 
Anyhow, I stand behind my comment about the road noise in the Azera. All I can think about are the test drives that I would be on, and feel really uncomfortable with the tire roar and such that seemed to be all over the cabin. I have noticed a huge difference with the Genesis.
 
Sorry if this offends any of you. It is not meant as a slight or anything, it is just my observations.
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Re: Just got back from a 3 day weekend with an Azera rental. Review. [jeffreid] by 101649
Sep 04, 2008 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: jeffreid (Sep 04, 2008 5:28 am)

The Michelins that are OEM on the Azera transmit a lot of road noise...Lower end of the line..They also become noisier as the tread wears down..Many owners have changed them out and gotten a less noisy ride.
BTW, the Genesis sports the DunlopSP Sport 5000m tires....Definitey an upgrade.
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Re: Just got back from a 3 day weekend with an Azera rental. Review. [jeffreid] by ateixeira
Sep 04, 2008 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: jeffreid (Sep 04, 2008 5:28 am)

Perhaps the tires are aired up to high pressures to prevent flat-spotting, and those models have not been PDI'd yet?
 
Usually they reduce the tire pressure just before delivery.
 
Not sure how your dealer does it...
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Re: Just got back from a 3 day weekend with an Azera rental. Review. [ateixeira] by wobbly_ears
Sep 04, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 04, 2008 7:04 am)

Yep, they're over-inflated to prevent flat-spotting during shipping & the dealer is supposed to reduce the pressure before delivery.
 
'Supposed to' is the keyword here. The moronic dealership which sold me my Azera didn't & I drove for about 2-3 months with 51psi instead of 32psi. I used to check air pressure on my previous cars every week. But since this Azera had a fancy TPMS, I got complacent & thought TPMS would let me know if the pressure was below or above spec.
 
Well, TPMS tells you only when it is underinflated (20% below). So, keep checking your tire pressure every other week folks!
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Re: Just got back from a 3 day weekend with an Azera rental. Review. [wobbly_ears] by ateixeira
Sep 04, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: wobbly_ears (Sep 04, 2008 9:24 am)

Yep, if the spec is 30 psi, it'll only warn you at a low 24psi.
 
If they started at 51psi, basically it would never go on, despite the pressures being way off.
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Re: Just got back from a 3 day weekend with an Azera rental. Review. [101649] by jeffreid
Sep 04, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: 101649 (Sep 04, 2008 7:01 am)

Just don't think it is the pressure.
 
This is a recurring situation with most all of the Azera's I have been in and we have one of the best service departments in our area. I would think that our tire pressures should be done right most of the time.
 
The Azera is a well built car, I just think that you get a better car for the money with the Genesis.
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Re: Top Speed? [101649] by joe97
Sep 04, 2008 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: 101649 (Sep 04, 2008 4:15 am)

Last I checked, the Genesis focuses more on the luxury side of things than sport, a lot more. That was the whole point - the goal was never set out to out-handle a BMW 5 Series, for example, far from it; but rather, it carries a superb ride and fantastic fit and finish for the enjoyment of the driver and those passengers inside the cabin.
 
The major US publications have had great things to say about this car, and the consumers as well. Is it a perfect car? Of course not, but the long list of pluses have far outshined the small areas of drawbacks. Naturally, just like every other vehicle model out there, this isn't for everyone; some may like it, some may not. One thing is clear, however, this car, has the caliber to compete with other players in its class, and it's drawing that very attention.
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Re: Top Speed? [joe97] by ksmigel
Sep 04, 2008 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Sep 04, 2008 7:18 pm)

Really?
 
The ride is the biggest criticism of the Genesis by quite a few reviews in magazines. Some of them have said it's way to harsh, transmits road imperfections through the steering wheel, and Automobile Magazine in its August 2008 review was really critical, saying that unlike other entry level luxury-sport cars, the Genesis's 'suspension fell apart on back roads.'
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Re: Top Speed? [ksmigel] by 101649
Sep 05, 2008 (5:02 am)
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Replying to: ksmigel (Sep 04, 2008 7:59 pm)

You're spot on ....As i have stated in many previous posts...I think the Genesis is a good start out of the box, but has some work to do before it can be classed ...You have to remember, Joe97 works for a Hyundai dealershi[p......I my self own 3 Hyundai and have been pleased with all...I'm happy with my '06 Azzy, but am going to replace it with a G 37 coupe soon.....I still think the riding and handling is not up to par with the sandbox that Genesis wants to play in...it will be interesting to see how the sls breakdown is according to engine size.....V6 vs V8 units..

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