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#76 of 149 Re: Please list your Freelander Yr, Model, & Miles [getua69]
Sep 29, 2010 (3:27 am)
We need to put the Freelander to rest - the final one.
Freelander was the idea of then-owner BMW. The Freelander in the UK with the diesel engine is a fantastic car. (note: I did not say truck!). BMW believed at the time that there was a market for a small SUV (or cross-over as they are known now). If you question that - just compare the markets for the BMW X3 and Freelander - same idea - different implementation.
It was LRNA that has a strange anathema towards diesel engines. The engine sourced for the North American Freelander was chinese-built in a rush.
If you are looking at an older Freelander: Stay away unless it has had it's engine replaced under warranty. The replacement engines are very solid. It's just too bad they came too late.
I have a lot of Land Rovers. The newest being a 2006 LR3 (The 2011 LR4 arrives later this week).
The most reliable are the ones that have no electronics in them beyond what is required to turn the lights on and start the engine. (Series and Defender) Those are the trucks that conquered Africa. There is nothing to go wrong on them.
Unfortunately, those trucks to do not do well in North America. They are slow, heavy, get bad mileage and if you live in the snow belt - rust.
That being said, whenever I turn up to an All-British car show and pop the top on my completely restored 1968 Land Rover Dormobile, it always draws a crowd - way more than the Rolls Royce's, Lotus's, Triumph's, etc. Even my Defender gets more stares than any other British vehicle I see at the shows. Perhaps it was that I entered it in the show completely covered in fresh mud! The judges didn't get it, but the Land Rover folks in the crowd did.
#77 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [pjohnesq]
Sep 29, 2010 (4:07 am)
Can you please post the mailing address for the consumer affairs dept? I am sure this is what the lawyer who has made some claims has used, and I'd rather get the entire amount rather than half!
Btw -- 2003 Freelander, 70,000 miles, replace thermostat, temperature gauge, water pump, etc. LR service dept. told me to not bother fixing the latest problem as it was due to engine failure
#78 of 149 Joining the community of Freelander issues
Sep 29, 2010 (3:43 pm)
After reading this page of freelander headache makes me wish I had done some research on them. I have owned a 2002 Freelander for the last 4 years and the amount I have paid to keep it going, till I get my loan paid off, I could have bought a brand new car. I had to replace the transmission on it after 70,000 mile. The oil changes, tune-ups, flushing the transmission, getting new tires, and brakes cost so much to get done. Just replacing the 3 timing belts costs almost more than I make in a month. Best advise is to stay away from this car at all costs. The owners of the Land Rover should have recalled these cars a long time ago.
#79 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [pjohnesq]
Oct 04, 2010 (10:32 am)
What contacts did you use at LRNA? I am in desperate need to getting some type of compensation. I have 2002 Freelander 65k miles needs engine same story leaking coolant and now check engine light on and will not drive it now. I owe $10k on the the loan. Any information would be most appreciated. Did you contact them via e-mail with no attorney representing you? Thank you!
#80 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [02freelander1]
Oct 05, 2010 (11:20 am)
Actually I am an attorney and was representing my wife. Yesterday, Land Rover decided to pay up, so I have settled my wife's claim. I'm surprised that there has been no class action on this issue. I am now thinking about exploring the possibility of a class action since not many Freelander owners are as lucky as my wife to just happen to be married to an attorney who actually handles product liability cases (usually for car manufacturers). I've never represented Land Rover, so I have no conflict of interest.
#81 of 149 no more freelander
Oct 05, 2010 (12:50 pm)
I have given up on my 03 freelander may she rest in peace. After a number of repairs and a engine replacement its over. I just couldn't afford to keep her any longer. I wish that Landrover would have made a better car and I wish they would have recalled the engine. I have to say that it was a fun car while it lasted and I hope no one else has the problems that I have had. So to everyone with a Landrover Freelander good luck.
#82 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [pjohnesq]
Oct 05, 2010 (4:54 pm)
Did you file or go though their admin process?
#83 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [martman99]
Oct 06, 2010 (9:51 am)
I went through their admin process. If we didn't reach an agreement I would have filed a lawsuit. I had nothing to lose since I don't have to worry about litigation cost and I'm sure a Los Angeles jury would have awarded me what I wanted. Land Rover figured it was better to pay us rather than hire an attorney to defend a losing claim. Now I have to send them the title in exchange for a little over $11,000 for a 2004 Freelander HSE. I do believe that their quick response and eventual settlement was based on the fact that I was representing my wife. The interesting thing is that we purchased the Freelander USED in 2009; we didn't purchase from a Land Rover dealer; there was no warranty on the vehicle and yet Land Rover resolved this claim with me in a month!
#84 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [pjohnesq]
Oct 06, 2010 (1:00 pm)
That is wonderful. Since you mentioned the fact you are considering possibly taking on LRNA in a class action suite in the interim would you consider representing an individual claim as you did for your wife? Lastly if have a loan out on my truck how would the payment go LRNA would pay my lien holder directly. That is all I am looking for at this point which is around $11k as well. Have you heard of anyone settling with LNRA without legal representation via plan admin. I mean they should know anyone can obtain counsel if they do not settle. Would you advise this course of action or get legal counsel.
#85 of 149 Re: 2002 Freelander Severe Nightmare!!! [02freelander1]
Oct 06, 2010 (2:14 pm)
Land Rover knows that absent a class action, there is not much money in these individual cases for attorneys since the engine defects have not caused any deaths and the damages are strictly economic in nature. As such, LR knows that attorneys are not scrambling to sign people up to pursue what is essentially a breach of warranty/merchantability claim because the damages are small in comparison to say a claim where the defective product has caused a loss of life. That said, LR also knows that it can get costly to defend an individual case wherein the vehicle owner is represented by legal counsel and in my opinion, are more willing to settle early.
I would consider representing individual claims. However, I would have to charge a fee based on a percentage of what is recovered.
If there is a loan on your truck, Land Rover would probably pay the lien holder directly and if you recover more that the loan balance, the remainder goes to you.
I have not heard of anyone settling with LR without legal representation, but it's worth a shot if you want to give it a try. Unfortunately I cannot advise you as to which course of action to pursue.