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#30 of 118 Re: nice [pjo1966] by miniclubman Feb 15, 2008 (6:33 pm)
Replying to: pjo1966 (Jul 28, 2007 7:27 am) I test drove and then ordered a Clubman today. The rear door configuration does create a vertical blind spot in the rearview mirror, but it didn't think it was that big a deal. The two split rear windows are fairly small, so it's not exactly a panoramic view to the rear, with or without the vertical split. It may be a bit of form over function (like the giant pie-pan speedometer), but the doors do create a fairly large and easy to access opening when opened (for a MINI, this is no panel van). I also think they're cool, which is the whole point of many things MINI.
#31 of 118 UHHH! by arizona26 Feb 29, 2008 (7:47 pm)
The ugliest rear end ever put on a car
#32 of 118 Test drive last night by kyfdx HOST Mar 01, 2008 (7:11 am)
My local MINI dealer had a debut party for the Clubman last night... Catered.. (if it's free, it's for me!).   Test drives were short, as there were a lot of people there, but we got to go by ourselves.. I don't have a lot of experience driving MINIs, so I can't really say whether it is better or worse.. But, I loved it..   I test drove an S-model.. I always thought the S would be the only one for me... but, after my test drive last night, I think I would go for the base Cooper... The car accelerated so quickly, that by the time I got out of first gear, I was exceeding the speed limit.. I think I could have a lot more fun with the base model, around town.   It was a blast! I don't love the out-of-proportion looks of the Clubman, or the $2K increase in price.. but, I can appreciate the extra room..   regards, kyfdx visiting host Replies to this message: jaxs1 (Mar 01, 2008 7:59 am) kyfdx (Mar 01, 2008 8:03 am)
#33 of 118 Re: Test drive last night [kyfdx] by jaxs1 Mar 01, 2008 (7:59 am)
Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 01, 2008 7:11 am) If you drive by yourself, the base will be OK, but if you carry passengers and cargo of any significant weight and actually make use of the extra room vs the regular Mini, you will find the power of the base model inadequate. The base will be little smoother and much quieter though. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Mar 01, 2008 8:03 am)
#34 of 118 Re: Test drive last night [jaxs1] by kyfdx HOST Mar 01, 2008 (8:03 am)
Replying to: jaxs1 (Mar 01, 2008 7:59 am) Yeah.. that's true.. I hadn't thought about three people and a trip to Sam's Club in the car.... I didn't consider the expanded uses of the bigger car.   I was thinking more along the lines of a regular Cooper, not a Clubman (oops, I'm off topic).. In that case, I probably would be taking another car to Sam's, unless I was by myself..   One other advantage of the base models.... I think you can avoid run-flats..
#35 of 118 MPG by mburleigh Mar 03, 2008 (7:21 pm)
Does anyone know what the gas millage is on the new mini cooper clubman? Replies to this message: percussionist (Mar 11, 2008 1:06 pm) bomb617 (Mar 13, 2008 10:03 am)
#36 of 118 Re: MPG [mburleigh] by percussionist Mar 11, 2008 (1:06 pm)
Replying to: mburleigh (Mar 03, 2008 7:21 pm) Gas mileage according to MINI's website is the following:   Clubman - 28/37 manual 26/34 auto Clubman S - 26/34 manual 23/32 auto   My question is this - both require premium fuel. I understand for the "S" version because it has a turbo charger (almost all automakers require premium for turbo). Why does the regular 118hp "naturally aspirated" version require premium fuel? I don't get it, so if anyone does, please explain. Replies to this message: bomb617 (Mar 13, 2008 10:03 am)
#37 of 118 Re: MPG [percussionist] by bomb617 Mar 13, 2008 (10:03 am)
Replying to: percussionist (Mar 11, 2008 1:06 pm) Because it's a direct injection engine and they use very high compression ratio.
#38 of 118 Premium Fuel by miniclubman Mar 13, 2008 (4:09 pm)
Actually, premium fuel is not required, but "strongly recommended". The MINI compression ratio is 11:1, so the premium fuel will give the best performance, but it will run on regular. I would also strongly recommend premum, since the engine is designed fo premium.
#39 of 118 Premium Fuel (miniclubman) by hpmctorque Mar 13, 2008 (7:23 pm)
"Actually, premium fuel is not required, but "strongly recommended".   Yes, but this doesn't answer the question of why the normally aspirated engine wasn't designed with a lower compression direct injection system that is happiest with regular. After all, fuel economy is a high priority in a subcompact, even in a premium brand subcompact. You could argue that the high compression enhances fuel economy, but I'd argue that the greater fuel economy doesn't compensate for the higher cost of premium fuel.   Incidentally, no one is arguing that the standard MINI won't "run" on regular, just that it wasn't designed for this grade.

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