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#580 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [agnosto]
Jan 28, 2010 (2:52 pm)
Agnosto... exactly what are your credentials? I called Toyota Customer Service today and spoke w/ two representatives. The representative said that you can drive a SR5 in 4H on dry pavement. Thankfully, they are shipping me a 2010 owner's manual, to help w/ my decision.
Secondly, please check your attitude at the door... it doesn't really serve the greater good. My purpose, as I am sure is the case with most others, is to learn and make educated decisions about our (future) purchase.
As I indicated in post #577... I had a salesman (himself a 4Runner owner) tell me to use 4H on dry pavement. And I shared my experience driving the vehicle in 4H on dry pavement. Knowing that I could get a Limited 4R - I doubt he would try to undersell me.
#581 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [fxoffroad]
Jan 28, 2010 (4:52 pm)
I'll just say that I have no personal experience and my belief is entirely based upon info on the web. I will saying that if you experienced binding while making a u-turn it seems to be consistent with the view that 4WD is not for dry pavement with the SR5 and Trail. Please let us all know what the owner's manual states. Thxs.
#582 of 769 SR5 on-demand 4WD comment
Jan 28, 2010 (8:21 pm)
I have had my 97 SR5 with on demand 4Hi and 4Lo for 13 years. I have at times had to keep it in 4 Hi once making it onto better roads in messy NE snow/ice storms. This driving has not damaged the vehicle at all. The entire drivetrain remains as smooth as when new. I am expecting a new Limited late winter, but will keep this machine too.
#583 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [fxoffroad]
Jan 29, 2010 (1:10 am)
My credentials before you question them. I've been driving 4x4's since 1976. If it is binding you are ruining the 4wd. I have the 2003 model with the AWD option. It never binds. But if I try the same thing in 4H with my 2009 Ram, or my former 1991 K1500, 1997 S-10 Blazer, 1986 Toyota SR5 PU, 1985 F-250, or my 1966 K10, it will bind. So get ahead and question all you'd like, but if you have to question someone's credentials over some idiot answering the phone who hasn't a clue and is reading out of a manual, then be prepared for failure.
Better yet, just buy it and drive it in 4H, make lots of U-turns, then come back on here and complain about how your 4WD blew in 4H.
#584 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [canddmeyer]
Jan 29, 2010 (5:45 am)
Yeah... the binding occurs when you push the vehicle to extremes by turning the steering wheel past its "tolerance threshold" (for lack of a more technical term). Like you (canddmeyer), I have owned a variety of 4x4's include an '03 F250, '95 Range Rover, '94 Mistu Montero and others.
I'm simply trying to decide whether to purchase an SR5 or a Limited because my better half will be driving the vehicle during snow events here in Colorado-and that "set it and forget it" route for that driver. If I the only driver, it'd be a slam dunk, I'd get the SR5. Unfortunately, I can see my better half going through the Starbucks drive-thru... in 4H and freak out when the vehicle binds. I want to avoid that. I also plan to do a lot of off-road driving, so this dual purpose requires some thought. In my Range Rover or Montero... you could drive in 4H and pretty much forget about it (except for tight turns). Hence my questions about the 4 Runner.
And thanks so much for the attitude... really helps!
#585 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [fxoffroad]
Jan 29, 2010 (9:05 am)
exactly what are your credentials?
I am not sure what credentials would be suitable for providing links to sources but I think we'd enjoy the discussion more if all tried to be a bit more cordial.
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#586 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [tidester]
Jan 29, 2010 (9:15 am)
completely agree. I'm, like many others, simply trying to make an informed decision - its very disappointing that some people seem to think its alright to try and make others feel dumb, when ultimately there are several different viewponts. As I'm learning there are clearly different schools of thought - about 4WD systems.
#587 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [fxoffroad]
Jan 29, 2010 (1:42 pm)
After going through two transfer cases with my 2002 Explorer with full-time 4x4and 4x4 high/low, I decided to go back to the manual shift 4x4 system of the SR5. The limited had the same type of drive as the 2002 Explorer (probably better built), none-the-less similar and I wanted nothing to do with an all-time 4x4 system. I have an SR5 and the sales person at the time of purchase (mountain area dealership) told me that I need some give on the pavement to be in 4x4 high or low. This is consistant with my experience over the last 20 years of 4x4's. I know, for example, that chevy made full-time 4x4 system back in the day but they tore up the tires fast in pavement. We could probably do the same wear and tear to transfer case and tires over time on 4x4 high. Just my opinion. I took the wife out and introduced her to the manual shifter, did not take long before she was not put off by the slight gear noise and shift feedback.
#588 of 769 How to open all windows remotely using the Limited Smart Key fob...
Jan 29, 2010 (4:28 pm)
Has anyone had the dealership to program (I assume the ECU) to open the windows remotely by using the Limited Smart Key fob on the 2010 4Runner Limited as the manual states it can be done? If yes, did it cost anything?
#589 of 769 Re: Good Road Test of the 2010 4Runner [fxoffroad]
Jan 30, 2010 (12:13 pm)
FWIW - my wife drives an 01 Montero Sport, part time 4WD. She called me once when we had a pretty good snow storm in a panic as she was starting to slip. I told her to "move the lever" in my best calm voice. As soon as she did and the 4WD hooked up I could hear the stress leave her voice. She is good as gold now.
That said we are renting a new 4runner from Dollar (downtown Seattle locations has 'em) next week - it is nearing retirement age for the Mitsu - if she likes the runner we would like get the limited...