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#529 of 769 Opinions on third row in 2010 4Runner
Jan 13, 2010 (9:18 am)
Can someone please give their opinion on the third row of the 2010 4Runner, for instance, its too tight, impossible to get to, pointless?
For instance, on the 2010 RAV4 third row it looks like Toyota moves the second row up, making all back rows miserable.
Looks like Chicagoland won't get 4Runners with third row.
Looking at Pilot, Outback, HL, Venza or 4Runner to replace the 2002 Forester because its getting tight with three kids. The other vehicle is a 2009 Sienna.
#530 of 769 Re: Opinions on third row in 2010 4Runner [illinoiscentra]
Jan 13, 2010 (11:33 am)
We just traded a 2004 4Runner with the third row seats and 147,000 mi. They were used twice during that time! Quite uncomfortable, ill-suited for long trips and a hassle to get in and out of. Before purchasing our 2010 4Runner, we checked out the 3rd row seats; they are a bit better designed but still not great; so we elected to forego them this time. While looking, we also examined the third row in the Highlander. There, the seat comfort and entry is better yet, but still nowhere near the pleasantness of the big-three American vans of the 1980s.
#531 of 769 Re: Opinions on third row in 2010 4Runner [illinoiscentra]
Jan 13, 2010 (1:34 pm)
Since I was planing to have the 3rd row seats 99% down and I already have an 2006 Sienna Limited, it made sense and decided to not get the 3rd row in my current 2010 4Runner Limited 4WD, and I am glad I did not, since I find the standard sliding rear cargo deck with under-floor storage box more useful... on a different subject, averaging 23.5MPG (70/30 H/C miles) on my 3rd tank of gas... wow, what an amazing vehicle...
#532 of 769 Re: Opinions on third row in 2010 4Runner [illinoiscentra]
Jan 13, 2010 (2:16 pm)
If you do not need the off road capability of the 4Runner, your better off with one of your other choices.
The rest are cross overs, and not "body on frame" like the 4Runner.
#533 of 769 Re: Opinions on third row in 2010 4Runner [illinoiscentra]
Jan 15, 2010 (11:22 am)
The Third row seat isn't as tight in the new 4Runner as it is in the Rav4. But from experience the 2009 Sienna would be a much better choice with three kids. I am a Toyota Rent a Car Manager Turner Toyota Rent a Car in Colorado. I have had all of the Toyota's you mentioned in my fleet. I work with alot of people, who are repeat customers of mine. They give me great input and I get to try all of the vehicles myself. I have been doing this for the past 4 years and before this I was at a different dealership in the parts department for 6 years. The Sienna is such a masterpiece when it comes to family convenience, and reliability. Living in Colorado I keeo the AWD version in my fleet and it handles like a dream in all weather. The Highlander is an excellent vehicle but with car seats and other gear it is difficult as it lacks storage area behind the third seat when in use. My Dad drives a Pilot, (he doesn't live close to me evidently) and it is smaller than the Highlander. The new 2011 Sienna van is going to have foot rests on the two rear bucket seats and has a lot of other new options to check out. The Sienna van in any recent year model is still the best Family vehicle toyota makes in my opinion.
#534 of 769 SR5 4 wheel drive
Jan 15, 2010 (1:51 pm)
I have a 2002 SR5 that has the center differential. It seems to me that the new SR5 now comes with an inferior 4wheel drive system. I would be going from push buttons to levers, and loose the center differential. Or is the 2010 4 runner's 4 wheel drive similiar to the 2002 with the center diff locked? Any input would be appreciated. I like the new one, but not sure if I should get a trail. I use it in snow, sand, and old logging roads, so having a capable 4x4 is crucial.
#535 of 769 Re: SR5 4 wheel drive [02yorunner]
Jan 15, 2010 (6:37 pm)
The only full time 4WD drive with center differential is the 2010 4Runner Limited edition. Both SR5 and Trail edition are part time with rear differential that require once in a month for 3-10 miles or so to engage (only off-road) the 4WD system to keep the 4WD components lubricated, and that is the main reason I paid extra to get the Limited ...
#536 of 769 Re: SR5 4 wheel drive [agnosto]
Jan 16, 2010 (7:56 am)
You just gave me more reasons to get an SR5 and take it offroad at least once a month... sweet. thanks.
#537 of 769 Re: SR5 4 wheel drive [agnosto]
Jan 16, 2010 (5:12 pm)
It is important to realize that the center differential is a non-issue on the part-time 4WD models, because the transfer case divides the power equally between front and back with no variation - no differential action. The best traction available in any stock 4Runner is with part-time 4WD and a push-button locking rear differential, as comes stock on the Trail Edition. Also, in normal 2WD on the highway, the 4WD SR-5 or the Trail Edition will get better mileage than the Limited, because there are less parts moving under power - less friction. Engaging the part-time 4WD once a month is a small price to pay for better gas mileage and superior 4WD performance. Please don't take offense. The Limited is a fantastic vehicle, but it is important to see things clearly.
#538 of 769 Re: SR5 4 wheel drive [hikervince]
Jan 16, 2010 (5:35 pm)
for the record: according to Toyota, there is no difference in MPG between the full-time 4WD (Torsen center differential-equipped) Limited and the part-time 4WD (VF2A transfer case) SR5 and Trail Editions. so whichever model you choose, you can expect the same fuel economy.