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Toyota 4Runner, Concept Cars, Future Vehicle, SUV
#498 of 769 Re: Prior 4runner,now 2009 Borrego [g0lfer]
Jan 06, 2010 (8:42 am)
I'm also trying to decide between the 2009 Borrego, 2010 4Runner, and keeping my 1998 Mercedes ML320 -- with 140k miles, check engine light on, major oil leak, need new tires... I figure perhaps it's better to get rid of it now than to spend thousands on necessary repairs and maintenance. I really like the Toyota, but it's hard to justify when I can get essentially the equivalent car in the Kia for $12k less.
#499 of 769 Re: Scratch another off the list [fxoffroad]
Jan 06, 2010 (9:36 am)
I think you misunderstood the guy's post. He was pointing out that the 3rd Gen 4Runner was a much better off road vehicle than the 4th gen or the new one. If you really want to go offroad, why buy a 2010 4Runner when it is so compromised in offroad capability compared to the older ones? Find a good older unit to beat up, and buy an Avalon for comfort.
You *will* be getting scratches on your $40K 2010 4Runner, because incredibly, it is almost *10 Inches* wider than the 3rd gen. That is huge, literally. If you drive offroad, think of all the times you squeeze past things by two or three inches...with the 2010 you'll be denting the vehicle. The wheelbase is 4.6 inches longer on the 2010, the overall length is 10 inches longer, the weight is in incredible 800 to 1000 pounds more, and the breakover, approach and departure angles are much better on the 1996-2001 4Runners.
The bottom line is that the 4Runner has become a pooch truck, just like most of the rest of the SUV class. Toyota is pushing the goofy, FJ Cruiser as the true offroad vehicle, and while it is capable offroad, it is obviously aimed at 20-something single males, with its tiny, claustrophobic interior, lack of visibility, and poser looks. The 4Runner is for yuppie suburbanites who go offroad once or twice a year in between ventures to the mall.
The Wrangler Unlimited is the only logical remaining choice that approximates the 3rd Gen 4Runner. BTW, it is the lone Chrysler vehicle that is still selling well.
#500 of 769 Re: Prior 4runner,now 2009 Borrego [waltzonice]
Jan 06, 2010 (9:53 am)
The decision was easy for me as soon as Toyota announced no V8 in the 2010 4Runner. The new 4Runner is bigger, heavier, and more expensive with only a V6. It doesn't have near the HP and torque. I needed the 4WD for snow and the V8 to tow 5200 lbs in mountains. And the gas mileage is the same or better with the Kia. The Borrego has exceeded my expectations and I am impressed.
#501 of 769 Kia vs, 4 Runner
Jan 06, 2010 (5:17 pm)
The Kia looks good but with sales lacking, it probably won't survive. It remains to be seen how much dealer support there will be for thr Borrego as it is phased out.
#502 of 769 Re: Prior 4runner,now 2009 Borrego [g0lfer]
Jan 06, 2010 (7:04 pm)
I'm looking at getting a V6 so the 2010 4Runner lack of V8 is not an issue for me. I do like the looks of the 4Runner better than the Borrego, and also like that it has a bigger gas tank and slightly better gas mileage. I haven't had a chance to test drive the 4Runner yet. If I go with the 4Runner, I may give it a few more months when I can hopefully get a slightly better deal.
#503 of 769 Hopefully Toyota Will Make Adjustments For 2011
Jan 06, 2010 (9:15 pm)
The lack of traffic on this board appears to be a symptom of lacking interest for the new 2010 4-runners. I really do not want to see the 4-Runner disappear, since the core vehicle while not optimal is OK, but not inspiring enough for current 4-Runner owners like myself to buy. The 4th generation went through a similar situation with the ugly fender flairs in 2003. Changed them in 2004, and I purchase a new 4-runner. The fix is simple. Just look at what was offeedr in the previous Sport and forget the gimmic items like the sliding floor in the tailgate and the boom box switch for tailgating. Hopefully the toyota MBA marketing folks can do a better job for 2011. If so, I will be buying a 4-Runner. If not, the life of the 4-Runner may be short lived since the dedicated 4-Runner base will loose interest as is obvious from the lack of activity on this board.
#504 of 769 Re: Hopefully Toyota Will Make Adjustments For 2011 [tangman]
Jan 07, 2010 (7:34 am)
If you really want to see lack of interest go to the Borrego board. I think the economy has alot to do with it.
#505 of 769 Re: Hopefully Toyota Will Make Adjustments For 2011 [tangman]
Jan 07, 2010 (9:12 am)
I am the current owner of an awesome 2010 4Runner V6 LTD 4WD with NAV and have been very happy with it so far after the first 400 miles. This is my 3rd 4Runner and it is by far the best 4Runner I have ever owned in terms of ergonomics, comfort and space, etc... Just for the record, I am in the 2nd tank and my current MPG (after resetting the computer AVG) is about 22 miles as it reads in the computer with mixed miles in c/h.
When it comes to choosing vehicles, I am very thorough/picky and if Toyota starts to fail in overall quality and reliability, then I will have hard time to find my next MAKE, but for now, I would never compare this beauty to even an MDX...