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Toyota 4Runner, Concept Cars, Future Vehicle, SUV
#30 of 769 Re: Redesigned 4-Runner [nippononly]
Feb 20, 2009 (7:11 am)
"Whenever Toyota says "limited supply" they mean they will produce a few dozen for poorer regions of the country as a price leader. Almost certainly in 2WD only. I hope they have figured out a way to remove at least 500 pounds from its curb weight, or else that 4-cylinder engine is going to be more outmatched than the 22RE was under the hood of the 1990 model 20 years ago..... "
I'm sure they'll produce more than a few dozen! They want to sell as many as they can, so they'll probably produce them in a ratio (4cyl:6cyl) that coordinates with the projected demand for each. The projected demand for a 4cyl 4runner is probably a lot smaller, so they'll probably produce less. I'm sure if they saw a big demand for a 4cylinder with 4wheel drive they'd produce them. We can only wait and see!
Feb 20, 2009 (2:58 pm)
The more I think about the 3.5L V6 going into the 4runner the more I feel confused. For one, if its the same motor from the Highlander/camry, thats a car based motor for light duty not offroading & towing. Second, Toyota has basically always had a seperate engine family for their truck based vehicles hence the current 4.0L used in the 4runner now. I can't see them targeting the "off road" guy group with a rugged looking truck on a truck/ladder frame and then putting the camry motor in it?
I have a call into my dealer(i know the sales manager) to see what he has heard also and am attending the Milwaukee auto show tomorrow and will see what I can dig up.
Putting a small 4cyl in this vehicle and a downgraded V6 with no V8 option seems silly to me?
Feb 20, 2009 (3:20 pm)
Who knows at this point. Im just relaying the info I got
Let me know if you find out anything from your dealer and/or the auto show.
Would you like some little (not so significant) info?
the overfenders on the 6cyl will be painted
the overfenders on the 4cyl will be black.
Again, just what I've heard...
Feb 20, 2009 (7:36 pm)
I do appreciate your info!
I guess I am hoping they just did not reveal all the facts to you yet
I will see what I find out at the auto show tomorrow and hope to hear back from the dealer very soon also.
#34 of 769 Re: [brandonWI]
Feb 22, 2009 (12:00 pm)
"Toyota has basically always had a seperate engine family for their truck based vehicles hence the current 4.0L used in the 4runner now."
I agree. It doesn't make sense that they would keep this a full frame truck, yet put a car engine in it. The current V6 in the 4Runner is designed for extra torque. What good is a truck without the torque?
Toyota is smart. It knows how to use "select" rumors. They just might want to get people to buy up all the V8's that aren't currently selling
Feb 22, 2009 (4:11 pm)
Based on the rumours, the direction appears down the Fortuner route. Rugged and smaller engine are all Fortuner attributes. Really, all they need to do is slap another emblem on it and a nicer interior, and it is ready for the US market based on the indicators provided so far. Perhaps we will even hear about a manual transmission. Maybe they can go off the deep end and offer some bright colors too.
Feb 22, 2009 (6:56 pm)
At the Milwaukee auto show, the Toyota rep told me he has heard they are seeking a more basic less "luxury" type SUV. They said the interior should be larger than the Highlander but offer less goodies and maybe smaller engine choices this time around considering the current 4runner was never really meant for a V8 to begin with. He also said it was postoned to around November of 2009.
Looks as if they maybe want to combine some of the FJ's design cues with the current model and phase out the FJ to keep just the 4runner.
Only time will tell, I hope it doe snot become to "rugged" , I need leather & heated seats this time around
Feb 23, 2009 (5:56 am)
I'm glad you got to go to the show and get more info! ...and thanks for letting us know.
PS - if they don't have leather and heated seats, you can have them both added for around a grand! (maybe less depending on where you get 'em)
Feb 27, 2009 (2:59 am)
"considering the current 4runner was never really meant for a V8 to begin with". Whaaaat? Had there been any V8's available when I bought mine I would have jumped on that. V8's were hard to get early on. Many of us have our 6 and 7 year extended warranties expiring this year or next, and Toyota would be foolish to get rid of the V8 as most everyone I know with the V6 would get the V8 next time around.
All in all, I was hoping the redesigned 4Runner would have rear IFS and a cold weather package like the Sequoia. Less road noise would be welcome too, as my 2003 version has horrible interior road noise. But there's still hope as nothing appears to be official, yet.
Toyota also badly needs to revamp how they're optioning the 4Runner. If Toyota optioned the 4Runner like they optioned the Sequoia, I'd be a happy camper. 3rd rows in 4Runners are useless, and shouldn't even be on the vehicle except as a customer add-on. I think the 4Runner 3rd row scares away more buyers than it attracts.
Mar 01, 2009 (8:22 am)
My prediction for the 2010 4Runner includes the new 4.6L V8 but I'm sure it will be hard to find, at least initially. I owned a 2003 and 2006 V8 limited and feel that Toyota had a hit with this SUV. It would be very disappointing if Toyota dramatically changes this vehicle as I'm hoping to get the new model when it debuts. More of the same with updated interior and exterior would make a lot of 4Runner enthusiasts happy (in my opinion).