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375 messages, Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM
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Replying to: amarrao14 (Nov 21, 2009 8:06 pm) |
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The 4Runner is still pretty hot according to the salesperson here at a dealership in Northern California. Many people called to inquire when they would in stock. I was told I am the first person to check it out, but I think I am not the first person who is hesitant to buy one. Some of my impression after the short test drive of an SR5. 1. Exterior I basically like the shape of this 5th generation. Looks solid and tough. Looks a little nicer than the 4th generation because of the lifted face. It is a purely personal taste, though. 2. Interior - After adjusting the seat, I found myself easy to get in and out. Headroom is fine, legroom is fine too. I am 6'2". Rear legroom is better than the spec'ed 32.8". - Simple and plain console layout, which I like. - Plastics doesn't look cheap to me (on the contrary to some other reviews on other forums - Limited version doesn't have an upscale interior than the SR5. 3. Performance - Overall feels a little underpowered, "pick up" on highway is not there. Didn't have this feel on a 09 V6 or V8. This is the biggest disappointment. - Drives buoyantly, or the suspension is too soft for my taste. One thing that is tricky to me is the gas pedal. Whenever I tried to step on the gas after a stop, my right foot was somehow always stuck by the the left bottom part of the console housing that is close to the gas pedal. I had to carefully adjust my foot to step right on the gas. This never happens on any vehicle that I have driven/tested. Perhaps my seat wasn't very well adjusted? I really doubted it. I had thought to use the 4Runner as my commute car plus weekend/holiday recreation vehicle. The on-road performance is equally important as the off-road ability. I am now hesitated...perhaps I ask for too much? |
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| 2009 4Runner - 4300lbs with 236hp which gives it 18.22lbs/hp vs 2010 4Runner - 4675 lbs with 270hp which gives it 17.31lbs/hp. In this case, the lower number wins. I'll take the off road capability along with body integrity over a little pick up. Maybe the new one is geared a little different. After renting several compacts ove the past several months having a locked gas latched, I am surprised that Toyota went away from this feature. Now the bears can get to the gas. | |
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Replying to: joli1 (Nov 22, 2009 7:02 am) This not a function of lack of horsepower so much as it is a function of a lack of midrange torque. Truck engines, even DOHC Toyota truck engines, are not normally tuned to rev to get to the meat of their power band - it is supposed to start BELOW 4000 rpm. But this 4Runner V6's torque peak is at 4400(!) rpm. That is very high for a truck engine, and is probably both a symptom of the undersized nature of this engine as the topline option (which therefore forced Toyota to wring every bit of torque they could from it, driving the rpms higher), and a cause of the underpowered feeling on the highway, where you have to floor it to pass someone whereas the older 4Runner had power in reserve... |
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Replying to: amarrao14 (Nov 22, 2009 2:10 pm) no hid lights no led tail lights, or leds all around no lock on gas cap antenna on front passenger side. also someone above pointed out. weird location for window controls. also drove test drove the sr5 and highlander sport back to back. THe sr5 felt spongy compared to highlander, but i think it is because of the tires . The limited should have a firmer feel with lower sidewall width tires and xreas sport suspension. Also in response to murano above. Murano drives much better and handles better, but good luck when CVT starts failing. The more you gun it, the worse the cvt gets with time (hesitation). Also the new 4runner does in fact have less pick up than old v8 runner. They are pushing folks to go after the new lexus gx 460 which should be on the website next week. I dont know why toyotat didnt include a 6 speed transmission and an option for 2wd vs 4wd like on sr5 for limited. What sense does that make? Toyota skimping out on stuff here that wont fly with many buyers here
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Replying to: amarrao14 (Nov 22, 2009 2:10 pm) |
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Replying to: yassy (Nov 22, 2009 5:17 pm) no led tail lights, or leds all around no lock on gas cap antenna on front passenger side. (all cost cutting measures). |
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Replying to: yassy (Nov 22, 2009 5:17 pm) |
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well looks like the gx460 here now. disappointed in the way it looks to be honest. think the 4runner looks better. torque and hp is above 300. neat gadgets and cockpit for gx, but not sure if it is worth 15 grand more! would of considered in mid 40's. i dont know who the heck buys these vehicles in this kind of economy! cant wait to test drive the limited 4runner. i am sure it drives better on ROAD than sr5. http://www.insideline.com/lexus/gx-460/2010/2010-lexus-gx-460-first-drive.html
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Replying to: yassy (Nov 23, 2009 7:21 pm) I am going back to the money tree in the backyard and pick off 50 Large Ones! Gimme a break!! |
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