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Who is Happy with their Jeep Liberty CRD?

35 messages,  Last post on Mar 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM

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#16 of 35
Re: Who is Happy with their CRD? [fairch] by siberia
Jul 12, 2007 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: fairch (Jun 28, 2007 2:49 pm)

I’m happy with my CRD but I have masochistic tendencies. If you actually need a tight turning radius, very good fuel economy, 5,000 # towing capacity and excellent off-pavement capabilities then buy one and live with the consequences. We have a late night remote stretch of no shoulder highway with no cell phone service that we drive frequently. We face the east to praise Allah, say 3 Hail-Marys, read a quote from Buddha and make as statement the we do not absolutely reject reincarnation. In fact, my wife wants to come back as a turkey buzzard because she loves the effortless flight. I want to come back as a functioning CRD. I reminded my wife what turkey buzzards eat and she reminded me that we eat at McDonalds on the road.
 
If you do not need the unique combination of capabilities of the CRD, just walk away. If you do, then be willing to live with the unique combination of irritating qualities
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Re: Who is Happy with their CRD? [fairch] by coolrider
Jul 12, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: fairch (Jun 28, 2007 2:49 pm)

I guess the price would have to be real right to go thru it again and take a big chance. It did everthing you could ask just not always when you wanted. I know better than to buy a new vechicle out the first year of production. It was just a new engine for the US that the rest of the planet has had for years, no biggie, opps, ouch.
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Re: Who is Happy with their CRD? [fairch] by bulletbob709
Jul 16, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: fairch (Jun 28, 2007 2:49 pm)

We have 2006 CRD purchased Jan 2006 new, 30,500 miles on it now. No problems. Wonderful vehicle and we are pleased.
 
It is good in town, on the highway, on grades, towing and terrific in heavy rain. My wife and girls love it, too.
 
Mileage is 19-22 in town, 25-27-29 on the highway at 75-65-55 respectively.
  
But, I have several recalls to follow-up on including one
received today on the heater blower mower. I am not wild
about possibly having the engine detuned because of the torque converter recall.
 
Our local Jeep dealer was sold to the Dodge house so I'm not sure about that situation. I do plan on purchasing an extended warranty as the 2006 came only with a 3/36 warranty.
 
I have used the Diesel Kleen additive from day one in generous portions, buy diesel from busy locations mostly Murphy at Wal-Mart, have the oil changed every 6500-7500
miles and every other oil change have my mechanic inspect
the engine and undercarriage. Worth every penny, too.
BTW, the CRD calls only for synthetic.
 
Biodiesel is available here but only at 100% and I am not equiped to mix it at the moment so stay with regular diesel.
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06 Liberty CRD ~ Problems by kelirae
Jul 24, 2007 (2:56 pm)
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I purchased my 06 Liberty Diesel New, and have had nothing but Problems with a Constant Jerking/Surge at 80Km - 120Km almost like an Engine Miss. Have had it back to the Dealer numerous times ~ First they said Torque Converter/Pump so Replaced that ~ No Fix. Admitted a Problem then but Now they say nothing is Wrong? Does anyone else out there have a similar problem, like this? Or any suggestions, short of a Trade In.
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Re: 06 Liberty CRD ~ Problems [kelirae] by siberia
Jul 25, 2007 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: kelirae (Jul 24, 2007 2:56 pm)

Kelirae,
 
There has been considerable discussion about jerking on this forum and other forums concerning mostly the Liberty CRD, some VW TDI and other. There is apparently jerking (passengers would not know if vehicle or driver) and JERKING (passengers would wonder WTH!) both frequent and rare. It has been blamed on the torque converter clutch, fuel system, fuel, air in the fuel, EGR valve, cruise control, computer, and other.
 
I have had several instances of JERKING over 40k miles after hard acceleration up an interstate onramp to 65 or 70 MPH and setting the cruise immediately. The JERKING lasted maybe 5 or 6 seconds. If I accelerate up an onramp with overdrive off and set the cruise at 65 or 70 MPH and wait 5 or 6 seconds before turning overdrive on I never get JERKING.
 
Once in a while I get subtle jerking when running at 45 to 55 MPH in hilly terrain with cruise on and overdrive off. I am not sure, but in either case I don’t think cruise has anything to do with it – I think it has to do with transition from load to no load where systems are not responding quickly enough or over responding. When driving with my foot with cruise off and overdrive on or off while making changes in throttle setting slowly and deliberately I have NEVER had jerking or JERKING.
 
On another forum writers claim much success eliminating jerking (don’t know which kind) by bleeding the air from the fuel filter head at the bleeder screw. There has been some discussion about where the air comes from – poorly sealing filter, fuel hoses not clamped properly and a defect in the filter head itself causing air to be drawn into the system. Don't know if this info is good or not.
 
Apparently, a good working CRD is borderline okay because it doesn't take much to make one not quite okay. or worse
#21 of 35
06 Liberty CRD by ddifonzo
Oct 20, 2007 (2:28 pm)
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I've had my '06 CRD for 14 months now and have 21,000 miles on it and am really happy with it. I've kept up with the recalls, though abit annoying. I am surprised that my gas mileage isn't much better than 20-22 mpg. I travel to work 20 miles each way, half highway, half local. I was hoping to see 25+. bio is not sold anywhere around me in the South Jersey area, so its been usld dino since new. I do have problems with engine stumble at 55mph for some reason, if I level off at this speed it does feel like the engine is missing.
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Re: 06 Liberty CRD ~ Problems [kelirae] by coolrider
Oct 24, 2007 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: kelirae (Jul 24, 2007 2:56 pm)

HMMM, They are numerous fixes (recalls) out for this and many other problems for the Liberty CRD. Especially the transmission parts and the electronics in it. Find another dealer or make the service manager show the current recall campaings. Find out what your state has for lemon laws. If your Liberty CRD follows the pattern this will only get worse.
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I love this little diesel. by hawk521
Nov 14, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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My CRD and I get along quite well. Sure it has some quirks, but what car of great character doesn't? I could tell you tales of my '62 Triumph TR-4 that would trouble many car owners - but I still harbor fond memories of the old girl...
 
Back to the CRD. I've had all the various TSBs and recalls done. And they themselves don't bother me. At least it shows that DC did attempt to fix some of the initial shortcomings in the Americanized version of their CRD.
 
But I AM troubled by the condescending attitudes of the tech writers at my local 5 Star dealership. It seems that if you take the time to read the various CRD forums and show up at your dealership as a relatively informed customer, you will be immediately treated as if you are there for the sole purpose of trying to pull the wool over their eyes or something. NOT ONCE did I receive an understanding remark from a tech writer with regards to my concerns over TSBs, needed re-flashing of my ECM firmware, or even the recalls for ball joints and the TC (F37) recall. They could do better - they SHOULD do better.
 
The irony here is that ALL owners end up spending more time dealing with tech writers than they ever do with sales people. So you'd think Chrysler would realize how important that relationship could be for repeat customers. While I love my CRD and plan to keep it a long time, it will be a much longer time before I buy another new vehicle from this Jeep/Dodge dealership.
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Re: I love this little diesel. [hawk521] by caribou1
Nov 14, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: hawk521 (Nov 14, 2007 12:28 pm)

Hawk521 beware, all automobile manufacturers buy the dedicated bits and pieces from the same suppliers. They just change the program parameters according to local specifications. What you can choose is mechanical versus electronic transmission elements. We have a transfer case, others rely on ABS sensors to improve their traction.
I would accept giving back 50 HP out of the 150 I have for an old fashion diesel with a chain driven camshaft. This would save a lot of money and I usually never use more than 100 HP anyway!
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Re: I love this little diesel. [hawk521] by steve_ HOST
Nov 14, 2007 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: hawk521 (Nov 14, 2007 12:28 pm)

You could try the approach set out in You, Your Vehicle and the Technical Service Bulletin (TSB).
 
Taking donuts may help their attitude too.

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